Magic Poser for Android
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So I have the app Magic Poser for Android tablets and I've never really played with it much but today I got a chance to sit with it. It's basically an app for creating reference images for 2D illustrations which was the whole reason I got into Daz in the first place. It's pretty limited you have only 4 figures, a realistic man and female and a toon male and female. There are no morphs for the bodies and no age morphs but it's not bad. What's really absolutely amazing is how fantastic it is at posing the figures. Because of the tablet's touch screen posing the figures is almost like playing with a real 3D figurine that's sitting infront of you. I've never been able to pose a figure in Daz Studio as quickly as I can pose a figure in Magic Poser.
It got me thinking that a fantastic app for Android would be the same thing but that lets you pose all the different Genesis generations of figures and then exports the pose in Daz Studio format. If any ambitious programmer out there ever creates such an app I'd pay good money for it.
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They actually say they're making a PC version of Magic Poser...which I don't see the point to, since DAZ Studio can do everything Magic Poser can and more without having to purchase a thing.
I'm with you though, if DAZ made an app like this that you could export the poses from over to Studio, I'd pay for it too.
Heh! Wow, I guess it really has been a long time since I purchased this app because they now have a completely new version of it (which luckily you can apply your old purchase to if you create an account). Just upgraded so I'll have to see what changes have been made. I wonder if it's able to export the poses as a BVH file? It looks like you might be able to import objects in the new version too. That would be cool.
Old version's poses are not quite compatible with the new version though, they must have changed the figures a bit. They've put underwear on the figure too, I guess somebody conplained about nude grey clay figure.
Holy crap! The new version's posing is 100% better than the old version, and I loved the old version.
It doesnt let you import objects, but it does have some free props and then a store to buy props. More figure choice including chibi figures and you can change the scale.
Poser the application was originally meant to be like that. The original developer said he had a small wooden figurine made for artists but he found it difficult to use so he wrote the application. Rendering and all the othe stuff was added later.
Windows 10 supports touch screens, if you've got one you should be able to pose figures the same way you do on a tablet. It might be possible to do it as a plugin or script for Daz Studio.
The whole reason I got into 3D was because I hated how crappy my wooden artist doll was (it would never hold a pose properly and had crappy range of movement. I asked on a forum if there was a digital version of those wooden dolls I could use to create reference images and someone pointed me to Daz Studio. I got it and Hexagon and soon discovered that I love doing 3D modelling (especially clothing).
>>I don't think it makes sense for Daz to have an Android app, unless the app was a dedicated streaming app that lets you use your desktop to do the heavy lifting.<<
That's not what we're hoping for, we'd really just like an app just like Magic Poser but with the ability to export the poses to .DUF format so they can be used in the full version of Studio. That way, we can pose figures wherever we are, then send the file to our PCs and do the serious work there.
If Daz Studio can respond to touchscreens maybe it would be possible to write a plugin or script that could take the touchscreen inputs and do the posing the way the android app does. I don't know anything about scripting, I keep intending to learn but haven't got anywhere yet, and my only attempt to learn to write plugins was a complete disaster so I don't know what you can and can't do but it sounds possible to me.
If the app can export poses in some documented format it should be possible to write a program that will convert them to poses for Daz Studio.
Unfortunately you can only export a PNG from the app at the moment to be used as a drawing reference.
Do you mean this?
Clip Studio (Manga Studio before) also has this feature. But I use it for the very realistic feel of the pencils that comes with it!
Yes, exactly. It's just so much more intuitive posing figures on a touch screen like that than it is using a mouse and a widget. It would be freaking awesome to be able to create poses for Daz figures on a tablet and export the final pose to be used on the desktop.
In other news I emailed Wombat Studios to tell them how much I love the new improved Magic Poser and suggested some features I'd like to see added. They're very receptive to customer feedback and feature suggestions and one of the thing they're working on is letting you import .OBJ props (as well as adding more props to their shop), so as a 3D modeller who only uses 3D renders as references for 2D illustrations I'm really excited about that. They're basically making a tablet version of what I use Daz Studio for, which is really exciting because I use my Note Pro 12.2 for all my illustration work (Autodesk's Sketchbook is my go-to illustration app).
Yeah but that video is really outdated compared to the new version. Oh! And they're working on adding body morphs to the figures too! Very exciting.
I bring this up every few years, because I still really, really want it (and would be willing to pay well for it) but I'd really love to have a "DAZ Studio Ultra Lite" that would allow limited rendering capabilities, to render out low-res images for use in a tablet (combined with a tablet's painting program and Comic Life to do webcomics on the go).
DAZ actually built one in 2012 and posted images, asking if anyone was interested in developing it. That was six years ago, and tablets have just gotten better and much, much more powerful. Their "test" program supported morphs and animation and used Genesis. I still want one so bad.
-- Walt Sterdan
A Daz-lite for Android where you can compose a scene for later rendering on a desktop would be really nifty and I advocated such an app before but after playing with Magic Poser I'd be content for now with an Android app that let me just pose Daz compatible figures on my tablet.
I agree; for me, the screen preview would be "render" enough (my iPad screen is 2732 x 2048 pixels, more than enough for a webcomic panel). The sad part (to me) is they had 90% of what I want back in March, 2012. From their description at the time, the app doesn't sound like it allowed pose customization, but other than that it had the ability to use Genesis with characters/morphs, the abiltiy to "paint" on the textures, and even add photos of faces to your characters; from their post:
Designing it as an add-on to DAZ Studio as you describe just makes it that much more desireable, to a wider range of people. People developing pose packs, as you suggest, could do it fairly easily if they implement an interfact simlar to Magic Poser, Art Model or Pose Tool 3D.
-- Walt Sterdan
Yeah please encourage the makers to do Daz figures with export capability. We really need better more organic ways to Pose characters.
I can see it now, DAZ releasing a plugin called... Poser.
I've always wanted to try my hand at a Kinect plugin for DS, for both still poses and mocap.
I played with Mcausal's Kinect script for Daz. It was fun. Bought a tripod mount for my Kinect so I'd be able to get better captions. I don't really do any animations though. Haven't tried it for pose creation yet.