Looking for an IRAY medieval style tavern interior.

FlortaleFlortale Posts: 611
edited August 2018 in The Commons

I'm looking for any type of interior that resembles a luxurious medieval style brothel. Doesn't even have to be a brothel, but a very nice looking Tavern.  Something nice you'd find in a Witcher game for example. I've been searching, but I can't find anything.

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  • FlortaleFlortale Posts: 611
    edited August 2018

    https://www.daz3d.com/fg-tavern

    - this is not luxurious or seductive enough, it doesn't have that sexual vibe. I would have to do a lot of work to make it look better.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tavern

    This is too old and all the materials would need to be redone for iray. A lot of those textures look terrible and would need to be redone.

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-tavern-of-mog-ruith

    What the hell. Looks like a barn with a nice starcase? WTF hahah. The textures are horrible. That model is too old and all the materials would have to converted to IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-tavern

    Too old, not luxurious or sexy enough. Suffers from all the same problems as the others.

    or DIY https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=MICK

    I came to this same conclusion. This is pretty much the only option I have next to the FG-Tavern.  No matter which I choose, I'm going to have to put at least 2-3 days of work into them to make them look like a brothel.

    We need someone to make a super luxurious mediaval style brothel/tavern for DAZ Studio. Something modern with all the IRAY shaders.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,008
    edited August 2018

    I tried to render the Fantasy Tavern in Iray a while ago and compare it with a 3DL render, looks pretty good to me. It was just a quick test, so the lighting can probably be improved a good deal. First one is 3DL.

     

     

    fantasy_tavern_3DL.jpg
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  • MattymanxMattymanx Posts: 6,975

    I have always been a fan of Faveral's work on this set - https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-tavern

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited August 2018
    liplin901 said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fg-tavern

    - this is not luxurious or seductive enough, it doesn't have that sexual vibe. I would have to do a lot of work to make it look better.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tavern

    This is too old and all the materials would need to be redone for iray. A lot of those textures look terrible and would need to be redone.

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-tavern-of-mog-ruith

    What the hell. Looks like a barn with a nice starcase? WTF hahah. The textures are horrible. That model is too old and all the materials would have to converted to IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-tavern

    Too old, not luxurious or sexy enough. Suffers from all the same problems as the others.

    or DIY https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=MICK

    I came to this same conclusion. This is pretty much the only option I have next to the FG-Tavern.  No matter which I choose, I'm going to have to put at least 2-3 days of work into them to make them look like a brothel.

    We need someone to make a super luxurious mediaval style brothel/tavern for DAZ Studio. Something modern with all the IRAY shaders.

    You didn't state in your original post that you were looking for "sexy". Unfortunately for you, Bee gave you all the links available in that genre that are sold here (that Bee had to go out and look up for you and you seemed less than grateful for the help), but there are other stores. Google is a wonderful thing. 

    Laurie

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  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128
    edited August 2018

    How is a tavern sexy, anyhow? I did a search on 'Witcher Tavern' and they all look pretty much like the various fantasy taverns above.

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  • liplin901 said:

    - this is not luxurious or seductive enough, it doesn't have that sexual vibe. I would have to do a lot of work to make it look better.

    The question becomes, do you want it medieval or do you want a more typical brothel? At best, a medieval brothel was little more than a tavern with extra drapery, the latter of which is easily added using DForce cloth or some of Jepe's numerous cloth items. At worst, a medieval brothel was a dingy little shack with a few beds. I figure you're going for the more up-market look, which basically means the FG or Fantasy Tavern's are your best bet.

    What you want is something very specific and while there may one day be something that caters specifically for that niche most of the time you'll find you have to adapt other items to fit it better. You'd be surprised how much creativity you can get out of a few items mixed and mashed together (just look at some of the threads on the forums which are all about kitbashing!) to get exactly the style you want. It will take longer, but it will be more personalised to you and the results tend to be better.

  • MendomanMendoman Posts: 404

    You could also use MICK bundle from Faveral, to build your own tavern, but https://www.daz3d.com/mick-kitchen is quite good tavern already.

  • FlortaleFlortale Posts: 611
    Mendoman said:

    You could also use MICK bundle from Faveral, to build your own tavern, but https://www.daz3d.com/mick-kitchen is quite good tavern already.

    That's what I plan on doing, the problem is I still have to spend time building a new scene. The Mick Bundle helps immensely, but I still have to put in the work.  I was hoping someone out there could make a nice brothel scene or just a luxurious medieval style brothel or something.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,803
    liplin901 said:
    Mendoman said:

    You could also use MICK bundle from Faveral, to build your own tavern, but https://www.daz3d.com/mick-kitchen is quite good tavern already.

    That's what I plan on doing, the problem is I still have to spend time building a new scene. The Mick Bundle helps immensely, but I still have to put in the work.  I was hoping someone out there could make a nice brothel scene or just a luxurious medieval style brothel or something.

    You are supposed to "put in the work" LOL.

  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,216

    I hate to be a party pooper, but if you want something made exactly to your specifications AND you want it Iray-ready, you'll probably have to do some of it yourself. Converting the textures to Iray only takes a few mouse clicks, then you'll have to assign the lights and glass manually. I did that with the Medieval Tavern that Mattymanx mentioned. It turned out pretty good, plus there's a set of stairs that can lead up to a bedroom or whatever.

    On a sidenote, does anyone know what the legality is of sharing an Iray preset for a non Iray product? Say I take Faveral's Mideval Tavern, convert the textures to Iray and add lights, can I share that scene file with someone? I mean if they already own the product, everything else is included with Daz Studio.

  • FlortaleFlortale Posts: 611
    AllenArt said:
    liplin901 said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fg-tavern

    - this is not luxurious or seductive enough, it doesn't have that sexual vibe. I would have to do a lot of work to make it look better.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tavern

    This is too old and all the materials would need to be redone for iray. A lot of those textures look terrible and would need to be redone.

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-tavern-of-mog-ruith

    What the hell. Looks like a barn with a nice starcase? WTF hahah. The textures are horrible. That model is too old and all the materials would have to converted to IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-tavern

    Too old, not luxurious or sexy enough. Suffers from all the same problems as the others.

    or DIY https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=MICK

    I came to this same conclusion. This is pretty much the only option I have next to the FG-Tavern.  No matter which I choose, I'm going to have to put at least 2-3 days of work into them to make them look like a brothel.

    We need someone to make a super luxurious mediaval style brothel/tavern for DAZ Studio. Something modern with all the IRAY shaders.

    You didn't state in your original post that you were looking for "sexy". Unfortunately for you, Bee gave you all the links available in that genre that are sold here (that Bee had to go out and look up for you and you seemed less than grateful for the help), but there are other stores. Google is a wonderful thing. 

    Laurie

    I used the word Brothel, a place where sexual debauchery occurs. Most Brothels tend to look sexy.

  • FlortaleFlortale Posts: 611
    edited August 2018
    Kitsumo said:

    I hate to be a party pooper, but if you want something made exactly to your specifications AND you want it Iray-ready, you'll probably have to do some of it yourself.

    Brothel's are in high demand. The first vendor to make a super nice Brothel with IRAY materials will make some good money.  You can advertise it as a luxurious tavern or a brothel or explain how it can be used for both.

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  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited August 2018

    Well, to be honest, you probably won't find a brothel here. There are sites that cater to that sort of thing tho. Have you looked on those?

    Laurie

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  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,803
    liplin901 said:
    Kitsumo said:

    I hate to be a party pooper, but if you want something made exactly to your specifications AND you want it Iray-ready, you'll probably have to do some of it yourself.

    Brothel's are in high demand. The first vendor to make a super nice Brothel with IRAY materials will make some good money.  You can advertise it as a luxurious tavern or a brothel or explain how it can be used for both.

    Got any numbers to back that up? I can't think of to many brothel requests other than this one in the last few months wink

    Funny, many of the brothels I have seen in movies were filthy and less than luxurious, just look at GOT brothels and they are mostly pretty sketchy places, LOL

    I am not against seeing one in the store, I just don't think of brothel and luxurious in the same sentence, LOL

    Here is the key to a quality brothel. really nice, upscale room/ building, a shrewd madame, big burly bouncer, eager rich clientale and most importantly, extremely hot women (or men) devil

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,008
    AllenArt said:

    Well, to be honest, you probably won't find a brothel here. There are sites that cater to that sort of thing tho. Have you looked on those?

    Laurie

    But they have the most important equipment for a brothel here - all the girls... cheeky

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    Taoz said:
    AllenArt said:

    Well, to be honest, you probably won't find a brothel here. There are sites that cater to that sort of thing tho. Have you looked on those?

    Laurie

    But they have the most important equipment for a brothel here - all the girls... cheeky

    Well, one does have to start somewhere :P

    Laurie

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    A picture or screenshot of what’s desired here would seriously help, since everything I can find on image search is really just a manky wooden tavern with some draperies. I feel like my idea of ‘sexy’ is seriously high class if that’s what’s considered luxurious these days. Off the top of my head if I were asked to render a luxurious brothel I’d start with one of the French salon-style sets, nothing tavern-like at all.

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    I found myself inspired by this thread.

  • FSMCDesignsFSMCDesigns Posts: 12,803

    I found myself inspired by this thread.

    I doubt that brothel will get much business with that big kitty in the building, just saying, LOL

  • dreamfarmerdreamfarmer Posts: 2,128

    He’s the bouncer!

  • jardinejardine Posts: 1,211

    I found myself inspired by this thread.

    now *that* is a classy joint.  nice!

    i'm waiting for the OP to ask what you scene setup was. 

    :)

    j

  • AllenArtAllenArt Posts: 7,172
    edited August 2018

    Nice, but not exactly medieval, is it? LOL. When the OP said "sexy" I thought of the fancy schmancy French salon style ones myself...lol. Kinda very far removed from medieval tho by a few hundred years ;)

    Laurie

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  • He’s the bouncer!

    This literally made me laugh out loud! Beautiful render!

  • CybersoxCybersox Posts: 9,134
    AllenArt said:

    Nice, but not exactly medieval, is it? LOL. When the OP said "sexy" I thought of the fancy schmancy French salon style ones myself...lol. Kinda very far removed from medieval tho by a few hundred years ;)

    Laurie

    I suspect that the OP is actually thinking in terms of a slightly earlier or later period or something based on fantasy fiction rather than the actual historical middle ages.  Google Medieval brothel and the period accurate illustrations you'll find are almost uniformly small and fairly dismal looking.  Which isn't that surprising since, for most of the middle ages, the upper nobility could generally take what they wanted, while the majority of the population were serfs or otherwise indentured with little access to coin, so most transactions would have been on a barter basis.  Toss in a church that not only took much of the money that was in the hands of the middle and merchant class, but also regulated the actual kind of outfits that prostitues were allowed to wear in public, and it's not exactly the most glamorous business.   

  • ColdrakeColdrake Posts: 236
    edited August 2018
    liplin901 said:

    I used the word Brothel, a place where sexual debauchery occurs. Most Brothels tend to look sexy.

    Not in medieval times they didn't. I think you've been watching to much Game of Thrones.

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  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited August 2018
    liplin901 said:
    AllenArt said:
    liplin901 said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fg-tavern

    - this is not luxurious or seductive enough, it doesn't have that sexual vibe. I would have to do a lot of work to make it look better.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tavern

    This is too old and all the materials would need to be redone for iray. A lot of those textures look terrible and would need to be redone.

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-tavern-of-mog-ruith

    What the hell. Looks like a barn with a nice starcase? WTF hahah. The textures are horrible. That model is too old and all the materials would have to converted to IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-tavern

    Too old, not luxurious or sexy enough. Suffers from all the same problems as the others.

    or DIY https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=MICK

    I came to this same conclusion. This is pretty much the only option I have next to the FG-Tavern.  No matter which I choose, I'm going to have to put at least 2-3 days of work into them to make them look like a brothel.

    We need someone to make a super luxurious mediaval style brothel/tavern for DAZ Studio. Something modern with all the IRAY shaders.

    You didn't state in your original post that you were looking for "sexy". Unfortunately for you, Bee gave you all the links available in that genre that are sold here (that Bee had to go out and look up for you and you seemed less than grateful for the help), but there are other stores. Google is a wonderful thing. 

    Laurie

    I used the word Brothel, a place where sexual debauchery occurs. Most Brothels tend to look sexy.

    I apologize that I couldn't help you.

    FG-Tavern is pretty luxury for medival times, i.e. if you have ever seen the real thing (the Fugger village in Augsburg, for example - late medival). FG-Tavern is really clean and neat and huge, too, and you'd not have to do a lot of extra work to it. As for "sexy"... please define "sexy".

    I mean, even modern day brothels don't do "sexy". They are functional first and foremost. Medival customers would go to such a tavern, drink and feast, and then go upstairs to "do their business". You'd have open fire, soot, dirt. The entire place smells. Matrasses as we have them nowadays didn't exist. You had hay-filled sacks, the richer ones had feathers. They'd have chamberpots in those upstairs rooms. Very sexy.

    If you are trying to go for some kitsch fantasy "sexy" version, then maybe a kitbash combination of FG-Tavern, MICK Interior and https://www.daz3d.com/knights-pavilion would work.

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  • KitsumoKitsumo Posts: 1,216
    BeeMKay said:
    liplin901 said:
    AllenArt said:
    liplin901 said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/fg-tavern

    - this is not luxurious or seductive enough, it doesn't have that sexual vibe. I would have to do a lot of work to make it look better.

    https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tavern

    This is too old and all the materials would need to be redone for iray. A lot of those textures look terrible and would need to be redone.

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-tavern-of-mog-ruith

    What the hell. Looks like a barn with a nice starcase? WTF hahah. The textures are horrible. That model is too old and all the materials would have to converted to IRAY.

    https://www.daz3d.com/medieval-tavern

    Too old, not luxurious or sexy enough. Suffers from all the same problems as the others.

    or DIY https://www.daz3d.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=MICK

    I came to this same conclusion. This is pretty much the only option I have next to the FG-Tavern.  No matter which I choose, I'm going to have to put at least 2-3 days of work into them to make them look like a brothel.

    We need someone to make a super luxurious mediaval style brothel/tavern for DAZ Studio. Something modern with all the IRAY shaders.

    You didn't state in your original post that you were looking for "sexy". Unfortunately for you, Bee gave you all the links available in that genre that are sold here (that Bee had to go out and look up for you and you seemed less than grateful for the help), but there are other stores. Google is a wonderful thing. 

    Laurie

    I used the word Brothel, a place where sexual debauchery occurs. Most Brothels tend to look sexy.

    I apologize that I couldn't help you.

    FG-Tavern is pretty luxury for medival times, i.e. if you have ever seen the real thing (the Fugger village in Augsburg, for example - late medival). FG-Tavern is really clean and neat and huge, too, and you'd not have to do a lot of extra work to it. As for "sexy"... please define "sexy".

    I mean, even modern day brothels don't do "sexy". They are functional first and foremost. Medival customers would go to such a tavern, drink and feast, and then go upstairs to "do their business". You'd have open fire, soot, dirt. The entire place smells. Matrasses as we have them nowadays didn't exist. You had hay-filled sacks, the richer ones had feathers. They'd have chamberpots in those upstairs rooms. Very sexy.

    If you are trying to go for some kitsch fantasy "sexy" version, then maybe a kitbash combination of FG-Tavern, MICK Interior and https://www.daz3d.com/knights-pavilion would work.

    That's pretty much what I was thinking. I did a few quick google searches and I found a lot more results for medieval hygene than medieval sexy. A brothel was just a place to do your business and move on. And taverns were probably popular because it was safer to drink beer or mead than plain water. In a time with no deodorant or penicillin where taking a bath requires carrying buckets of water and heating them up, I don't think sexy was a priority.

  • UthgardUthgard Posts: 872

    To be fair, the original poster mentioned The Witcher as being a reference, which pretty much rules out anything even remotely close to historical accuracy. He obviously wants an environment that entices and plays out to an RPG player's notions of what a sexy pseudo-medieval brothel would be like. I admit I haven't got much of an idea of what that would entail (Candlelight? Velvet? Draped things in unlikely places? Modern sanitation? Lots of elves?) nor why https://www.daz3d.com/fantasy-tavern/ doesn't fit the bill, and as sexiness is pretty much 99% subjective, if I were the original poster I would resign myself to a lot of customization and creative use of shaders.

  • I never thought the Witcher brothels looked particularly sexy. I just remember women dancing on tables, so I had to Google some images. Does seem like there would just be some more drapery, or maybe some wallpaper and decorated tiles. Unfortunately, nothing that won't require some work.

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