A 32" monitor is great
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A 32" monitor is great
Ron Knights
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My Dad saw one of my Facebook posts where I was thinking about buying a 32" TV to use as a computer monitor. Dad surprised me, and bought it for me. I've just barely begun to use it. So far, DAZ Studio menus look great on the larger monitor.
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Nice! Wish my dad would hook me up, LOL. I have two 27 inch LG monitors and while I would love to go up in size there is nothing wrong with the ones I have, so I need to have restraint, LOL>
I have two 27" ones that are pretty great too :) They're so big I really don't have room for anything bigger unless I start using the wall ;).
Laurie
I made up my mind that I would always provide enough room to myself so I can do what I want. I'm using a 6ft desk. I like the 32" 1080p TV because the default resolution is just right for reading. I can keep the 27" monitor at default resolution, and use that for the document window, etc.
One thing to keep in mind though, colors will not be the same on a TV as they are on a monitor. I've used three TVs as monitors over the years, one was a 4K one I bought specifically to use as a monitor and ended up returning it. I know this well because the most popular image I ever made, which was chosen as a Daily Deviation on deviantArt, was made on a older TV and 100,000 people had viewed it before I realized that the colors were much more faded than I wanted them to be. If a few people hadn't pointed out how faded it looked, I might never have known and not gone back to a true 2560x1440 monitor.
I've been using two top of the line 32" monitors from Dell at both home and work for several years (each paired with a slightly smaller monitor) and can't even imagine going back to working without them, but I've been contemplating adding an even larger 43" 4K TV to the mix. I don't trust the color accuracy on anything that's sold as a TV, but I frequently have so many windows and pop up screens open that the extra space will be worth it.
I've used a tv for a monitor before and just wasn't satisfied.
I have an old insignia (Best Buy brand) 32" and I love it. Yeah, technically, a TV is usually going to be less precise than a monitor (colors not as accurate, lower refresh rates, input lag) but mine is good enough for me. Of course, your mileage may vary. Like I've said before, I'm less of an artist and more of a hobbyist. I don't make fine art and I definitely don't do this for a living, so take this post with a grain of salt.
I am using 2, 24" Edgeless HP monitors for my main work and a 55" sony HD (non-4k) for training and reference, either PDF or watching Videos.
I bought a 27" 4K monitor and found that the text was way too small. I increased the size of the desktop Icons & text, but that defeated the purpose of the higher resolution. So I traded it in for a less expensive 34" that was lower resolution but physically 50% wider. Sometimes less is more. I bought & installed Display Fusion from steam and broke it up into 5 virtual monitors.
I have a 42 inch Philips UHD monitor, heaven.
I have a Dell P4317Q. It is a very nice monitor, too. It is so large that I have a hard time seeing it all with my progressive lenses. I have to tip my neck a lot to see the top of the screen through the bottom of my lenses. It is great for having a lot of DS panes open and still having a large viewport. Menus are pretty small text, though. Maybe 32" is a better sweet spot.
That depends on the TV, and also the monitor for that matter. There is no such thing as a perfectly calibrated monitor or TV out of the box. For example, laptops especially can have horrible monitors. Everything looks washed out on my laptop. And then you have to consider how people are viewing things today...many are using tablets and smartphones, which again brings up a whole new spectrum of what colors people may be seeing as there can be so much variation between models. I do a lot of browsing on my phones and tablets myself. I also use a TV on my PC, and I have a laptop. I've also used a few monitors. My TV actually does come reasonably close to the decent monitors. The laptop I have has the worst color of them all.
I've also seen people using TVs for their PCs, and these run the gammit. Anything from the models listed here, to a number of Samsung MU series TVs. I have serviced an design firm that used 40" Samsung MU series TVs in use for about half of their staff. So if it is good enough for a design firm, I'd wager it is good enough.
I've also seen 65" OLEDs being used as PC monitors, though namely for gaming. (And just to note, they didn't have burn in, but I have seen some cases of burn on OLED, mostly older ones.) The infinite black of OLED really makes color pop, even if color is not turned up high. And this holds for phones and tablets, too, as some of those devices may use OLED. So the technology behind the monitor in use is a big deal.
When it comes down to it, most people are probably not viewing websites on a traditional PC monitor anymore.
"When it comes down to it, most people are probably not viewing websites on a traditional PC monitor anymore."
I assume that you are referring to people viewing websites on their smartphones, outrider?
Personally, I don't like the big screens, especially for graphics work. All that head swivelling to see up, down and back and forth is a pain. If I need detail, I'll simply zoom in. To each their own.
I insist on making room for my computer stuff. Many years ago I made hundreds of YouTube videos, and did some live shows. I needed room for a sound mixing board, two computers etc. I no longer do videos, and don't do live shows. But I have a 6ft desk that comes in handy.
I'm 68 years old and had cataract surgery on both eyes. I use "reader eyeglasses" on my computer screen. I have a pair of "no-line" bifocals that Medicare gave me for free because of the cataract surgery. They drive me nuts, looking up and down just to read something. I rarely use the bifocals. I think my eyes are 20/20 after the surgery, without using eyeglasses. It's all rather confusing.
One eye is set for "near vision," and the other one is set for "far vision." It works just fine. I can see just fine for everyday running around etc. I wear sunglasses when I go outside. I've never been great with color. I'll probably never calibrate a monitor. Today is my first full day of using the new 32" TV. I love it so far. My artwork and or screens seem just fine to me. I don't need the higher resolution when I want to surf the web. I use the 27" monitor for my workspace screen. The new TV is for the various DAZ menus.
I say that comfort always counts and a large monitor is solid in my books.
My setup is actually for my Daw music is my main hobby and has been for many years, I found Daz on a whim and already had a good rig so was lucky, I built my new mix desk on one of those sit/stand mechanical desks, Its pretty good and I like that I can stand when working at my pc. Especially with Daz, I find that since I'm learning it takes a lot of time to get things right. I bought my screen a few years back so I could see my my full tracks when working music without having to scale, made editing a breeze. For Daz its great, when I finish a render I have a really large home theatre projector and I can view them there ;)
Age has its benefits, we get all the best toys.
I suspect the whole issue of color accuracy with different monitors is, for most users, somewhat irrelevant. Yeah, if you're working on a professional project where each frame of a film or video being worked on by a group of people, it's really important that everything is calibrated exactly so it all matches when you put it all together. But I'm guessing for most of us we probably wouldn't recognize the difference. I've got 3 x 27" monitors from 2 different manufacturers, and aside from a tiny bit of tweaking to get them all looking reasonably similar, I don't even notice any color difference if there is any.
As monitors get closer and closer to the limits of what people can even discriminate, I think vendors need more and more hype to convince us to buy new ones.
Can you find a difference between a TV and a computer monitor? Yeah, I suppose if you put them side by side you'll see a difference. But if you're working solely with a TV monitor on a project just for yourself, does it reallly matter?
By the way, you've got me thinking...
Now that I see your 32 inch monitor I feel like my 27 inch ones are too small. Of course that's absurd, and I can't even imagine pivoting my head around 3 x 32 inch monitors, but still it sounds like a cool idea. I recall one of the tech guys had a huge 50-ish inch monitor hanging from the ceiling in front of him, with a couple of huge 36-ish inch monitors on either side. Overkill, but still cool.
CGHipster, that is one impressive setup. How large is the monitor?
I started thinking about using a TV as a monitor last year. I got a 47" TV, and connected it to the iMac on a whim. It looked great, but was a bit overwhelming. I went back to the trusty 24" monitors. When I started using DAZ Studio again, I had troubles because I needed to keep fiddling with the resolutions so I could read the DAZ content library etc. The Sceptre 32" TV was $139. That is comparable to smaller computer monitors. I went to Facebook and posted a message saying I'd get one for my next computer monitor. My Dad ordered it from Amazon for me. That was a pleasant surprise. Right now I have 3 TVs. There's a 50" TV in the living room, a 32" 720p TV in the bedroom, and the 32" 1080p TV that I use for a monitor.
The PC I do most DS work on has a 27in monitor flanked by 2 19in 3x4 rotated to portrait. After the 17in I first used DS on it's heavenly.
Mostly work reclining, 7/8 foot from monitors so want all the real estate I can get.
My mickey mouse desk set up.
2x32, 1x27, 3x22, 3x19(portrait) plus the 19in graphics monitor on the mobile desk. 4 are TVs that multi-task.
Keeps the room toasty.
Pack58, I am indeed impressed. Did you start with a mobile computer desk, and modify it? Do you have a link to the desk you used?
The desk is constructed from MDF sheets and cubes/boxes, the "moble desk" is a commercial bedside laptop desk (with a graphics monitor instead of a laptop on it LOL).
All I needed to do for that was reptace thee cables with longer ones and bundle them up with velcro straps.
I panic over the frequent earth tremors here.
My easy chair computer desk was designed for either an easy chair or bed. It's good for what it does.
Do you keep Max Headroom in there! Wow, that is a lot of monitors ;) It must be great to spread Daz panels anywhere and have them full scale.
This is the 43" Philips IPS monitor, its ok and is UHD but it could be better, the price was right on sale and I went for it, under 1G and I was able to remove the 3 20 inches cluttering my desk. My large synth in the middle is on a sliding tray so when its in my keyboard tray etc are beneath and I'm about 3 ft from the monitor.
This is the model here: https://www.philips.co.nz/c-p/BDM4350UC_75/brilliance-4k-ultra-hd-lcd-display
It has 4 x PIP what is pretty cool and I can throw a movie up in one corner from my amazon tv while working on other things, I would buy it again for the price, in US dollars I got it on sale for 700.00 which is cheaper than some TV's at that size.
There's 7 devices (if I count a Samsung not so smart TV) with 3 monitors each on the two primary graphics machines so only roughly the same screen space as your Phillips and 1080HD not UHD although that may even out, but having got my networking sorted and KM and data drag and drop happening I can do texture modifications etc in another machine on the fly.
You in Kiwiland?
I've just bought a calibrator; will do that next holidays. windows tools aren't really suitable.
I didn't know you could use more than one monitor for Daz. I've never seen set-ups like the ones in this thread before. They're amazing.
My Mum bought me a 21.5 inch T.V. to use as a computer monitor. A few days after the warranty ran out, the TV kept scanning itself (it was just a black screen with a white scan bar running). I've had to go back to my 15 inch monitor that came with the computer.
If you look closely at the various window panes, look for a little square block with an arrow. Hover your mouse over that. You'll see many options on how to undock various pallates. I'm having trouble coming up with the correct words today. I undock entire group panes. My 27" iMac handles mostly just the document window. My 32" TV handles the content window panes, in addition to posing, etc. Two separate pane groups fit nicely on the 32" monitor. The 1080p TV display works well for me on the menus, etc. You get the larger images. I don't need higher resolution when viewing menus!
Daz doesn't use monitors, being the company.
Whilst using Daz would generally have folks assume you're referring to Studio, seeing as Daz have other products - confusion could set in.
I use 3 x 27" x 2560x1440; I even use multiple instances of Studio; often the Aux Viewport is on another monitor.
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TVs generally make poor monitors, although not always.
nicstt I think many people have called DAZ Studio "DAZ" since it was first introduced. They'll never stop.