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where did that tentacle faced alien go?
Linwelly
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I was sure there was an alien in the shop with an octopus head/ tentacle face, with either g8 or g3 as basis. I expecte to find it with Rawart but it seems nowhere to be found.
I'm sure I'm blind a bit, so help please ?!
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Do you mean this one: https://www.daz3d.com/the-elder-one-for-genesis-3-male
Yes! That's the one, thanks!
It’s a fantasy creature from d&d called an illithid
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illithid
I thought it was Cthulu inspired?
As it is called "The Elder One" I have to agree, I thoughjt it was Cthulu inspired.
well that's interesting, I can see where Stargate got their symbiotic ideas from
but yes the form of creature itself has been portrayed by many characters such as the Davy Jones interpretation in PotC for example and all including Gary Gygax definitely copied H. P. Lovecraft.
Cthulhu is one of the ancient old ones, probably the one who has had the most media coverage, but there are others. I can't remember if Lovecraft ever decribed what he looks like. From what I can remember when the monster appears it's often too alien or too horrible for the mind to comprehend, or something like that, but it's a long time since I read any Lovecraft.
The appearence of the creature is straight out of d&d. Lovecraft predated that of course, so it could have been tsr’s inspiration.
I remember as well that it never as explicitly described, but then I never was that much into Lovecraft stuff.
So Serene is right that the critter has a lot of similarities to the D&D tentacle guy (never came across one of those but then I mostly play other systems)
Howard P Lovecraft does describe Cthulhu (or its statue, anyway) in "The Call Of Cthulhu". After that, other authors (especially August Derleth) did add to the descriptions of all the Elder Gods/Old Ones. There was a wide readership of the mythos they all created, so naturally it influenced a lot of D&D designers.
According to the Wikipedia, the Illithid appearance was inspired by the cover of The Burrowers Beneath by Brian Lumley, based on quotes from Gygax. That novel appears to draw heavily on the Cthulhu mythos, from the information I found. The purple skin of "The Elder One" put me in mind of illithids more than Cthulhu since most Chthulhu art colors him in greens as opposed to the "purplish blue to gray-green" of illithids.
There are a few products in the store inspired by the Cthulhu Mythos. In addition to The Elder One (who seems to be out of H.P. Lovecraft by way of D&D), there's Cthulhiana HD, and Elder Beast of the Outer Dark. I suspect that the Singers of Chzor and Mutants of Chzor owe something to Lovecraft as well as "Alien". And not forgetting, of course, Cthulhu himself. Luthbel's model seems pretty close to the description that Lovecraft gives: "A monster of vaguely anthropoid outline, but with an octopus-like head whose face was a mass of feelers, a scaly, rubbery-looking body, prodigious claws on hind and fore feet, and long, narrow wings behind". That, of course, is a description of a statue of Cthulhu. When he finally makes his appearance on stage, Cthulhu is a little less hard-edged -- he is described as "a pursuing jelly" with "flabby claws" and an "awful squid-head with writhing feelers". He actually bursts when rammed by a steam-yacht, only to reform in his original shape. Elsewhere, Lovecraft says that he looks simultaneously like "an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature" and says that a "pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings".
I may have missed one; I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a model somewhere that looked quite a lot like Lovecraft's description of a member of the Elder Race. And some of the various fish-people in the store might do for inhabitants of Innsmouth.
The Cthulhu Mythos, of course, includes much more than just Cthulhu (who could forget Nyarlathotep, the Crawling Chaos, or Shub-Niggurath, the Black Goat of the Woods with a Thousand Young, among other crowd-pleasers?). Over at Renderosity, Sixus has a bunch more characters taken from the Mythos.
"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn", as they say.
Sixus does good stuff.
https://www.deviantart.com/willbear/art/Tsathoggua-773935341
https://www.deviantart.com/willbear/art/Mi-go-773946823
But there's yet to be the "Great Race of Yith" figure from "The Shadow out of Time", one of HPL's later stories that leans a bit more towards science fiction rather than straight up supernatural horror. I once contacted Rebecka of Sixus1 about that intriguing alien. She seemed genuinely interested, but that was a few years ago and obviously nothing resulted from that suggestion.
Oh, BTW, it should not be confused with the "Great Race of Yiff", which implies a competition orgy by people wearing fur-suits!
Sincerely,
Bill
Oh man you had to go there, Redfern, hahaha.
I might try a Great Race figure at some point. hmm. I'm slowly easing into doing original figures...
I love Stranger Things, its monster is amazing, and the whole upside down world it comes from.
The Shoggoth was also part of the elder ones mythos and I think in the Discworld books Vimes' Son had a childrens book called Where's My Shoggoth? The Laundry books by Charles Stross feel very Lovecraftian to me although I don't think he uses names from the mythos. I really like this series, it's a fascinating mix of eldritch horror, espionage and I.T.
Yes, Sixus does some great monsters. I've got some I bought years ago, a lot of them from Content Paradise but I still have backups of the installers.
For those from the OLD days of D&D, the Illithid were first known as Mind Flayers. I'm pretty sure they got the inspiration from the insanity-inducing Cthulhu from the H.P. Lovecraft works. Octopus-like head, humanoid body, psionic-based attacks....it matches up a little too well to be strictly coincidence.
As for the product, the "Elder One" name certainly harkens back to the "Elder Gods and Servitor Races" of the H.P. Lovecraft mythology.
And for those who are into that, definitely check out the H.P. Lovecraft Historical Society: http://hplhs.org/
I will note that I'm 99% sure that 'Illithid' and 'mind-flayer' as terms are trademarked by Wizards of the Coast. They can't control the appearance, though, because (as mentioned) it's not like the idea originated with them.
Other fun similar thing:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/0/03/Ood_Sigma_&_Co.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140208021652
I would not want to argue this case in court.
In TSR's early days, the company sometimes played fast & loose with (then) USA copyright laws--no idea if it was intentional or not--and got in trouble for it. My husband has a copy from the first printing of the AD&D Deities & Demigods, which includes chapters for both Cthulu and Frietz Lieber's Fafhrd & Grey Mouser fictional mythos. Those are missing from later printings because the respective copyright holders objected.
NOT saying The Elder One model, or similar models/descriptions violate any copyrights; they don't.
I was thinking there was a stand alone figure that matched this description but my computer is in a middle of an update and I could not remember its name or the artists name. I remember he did a lycan so I looked for that lycan and went to the artist. Did not see the item until I unmarked the hide items already owned and found the guy. https://www.daz3d.com/cthulhu-rising is what I was thinking about. 0.o omg it is expensive.