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iRay RTX2080Ti vs GTX1080Ti

j0eDo3j0eDo3 Posts: 0
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Hello,

Does anyone have above cards (RTX 2080 Ti and GTX 1080 Ti) and can test performance in latest Daz Studio? Reason why I ask is that according to this benchmark:

https://www.migenius.com/products/nvidia-iray/iray-rtx-2019-1-1-benchmarks

RTX is almost twice as fast as GTX, now I don't know if current version in Daz supports all RTX features (or only small subset of it) so it could be beneficial to all of Us to know how these both cards perform, especially now when minning craze ended and there are 1080Ti to be had for (relatively) decent money.

Thanks in advance.
Regards.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 104,283

    DS does not curently use the RTX cores at all, though the 4.12.x.x betas do have an updated version of iray that should (which is the version being benchmarked in the linked article). DS does now support the 20x0 cards, however.

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556

    I upgraded from three GTX 1080ti cards to two RTX 2080ti cards. Below are my benchmarks with each setup.

    DS 4.11 General Release
    3 x GTX1080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 1 minutes 3.17 seconds
    Outrider's test: 3 minutes 43.97 seconds

    2xRTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 45.28 seconds
    Outrider's test: 2 minutes 37.72 seconds

    Which works out to (per card)

    GTX1080ti Founders Edition             RTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 3.15 minutes       1.5 minutes
    Outrider's test: 11.15 minutes          5.25 minutes

    Hope this helps.

  • j0eDo3j0eDo3 Posts: 0

    @Richard Haseltine

    Thanks for clarification.

    @rrward

    Thank You for info. was test done on public or beta version ? So it seams like RT Cores are now supported ?  because I doubt that RTX 2080 Ti is practically twice as fast as GTX 1080 Ti without RT cores.

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    j0eDo3 said:
    @rrward

    Thank You for info. was test done on public or beta version ? So it seams like RT Cores are now supported ?  because I doubt that RTX 2080 Ti is practically twice as fast as GTX 1080 Ti without RT cores.

    Public version. No RTX support.

  • wsgentrywsgentry Posts: 572
    rrward said:

    I upgraded from three GTX 1080ti cards to two RTX 2080ti cards. Below are my benchmarks with each setup.

    DS 4.11 General Release
    3 x GTX1080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 1 minutes 3.17 seconds
    Outrider's test: 3 minutes 43.97 seconds

    2xRTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 45.28 seconds
    Outrider's test: 2 minutes 37.72 seconds

    Which works out to (per card)

    GTX1080ti Founders Edition             RTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 3.15 minutes       1.5 minutes
    Outrider's test: 11.15 minutes          5.25 minutes

    Hope this helps.

    Wondering about this.  What render settings are you using?   I'm asking because I have 2080ti in a graphics amplifier on an Alienware r4 17 laptop and it did Outrider's test in 4 minutes 47.54 seconds, default render settings (5000 Max samples, Max Time 7200, etc.) It hit 5000 iterations.

    Thanks!

    Scott

  • AalaAala Posts: 140
    j0eDo3 said:

    @Richard Haseltine

    Thanks for clarification.

    @rrward

    Thank You for info. was test done on public or beta version ? So it seams like RT Cores are now supported ?  because I doubt that RTX 2080 Ti is practically twice as fast as GTX 1080 Ti without RT cores.

    It is in 4.11, but only about 15-20% faster if you compare the same scene rendered in 4.10 on the GTX cards.

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    wsgentry said:

    Wondering about this.  What render settings are you using?   I'm asking because I have 2080ti in a graphics amplifier on an Alienware r4 17 laptop and it did Outrider's test in 4 minutes 47.54 seconds, default render settings (5000 Max samples, Max Time 7200, etc.) It hit 5000 iterations.

    Thanks!

    Scott

    Default settings that the file specified. 5000 iterations. Are you going by the times displayed on screen (which might include texture load times)? I used the times listed in Studio's log file (I purged the log file between runs so I didn't grab the wrong numbers by mistake). My cards are on PCIE3-16x slots on my motherboard. I don't know if that makes any kind of difference.

  • attilaszkablinattilaszkablin Posts: 7

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

  • nicsttnicstt Posts: 11,715
    rrward said:

    I upgraded from three GTX 1080ti cards to two RTX 2080ti cards. Below are my benchmarks with each setup.

    DS 4.11 General Release
    3 x GTX1080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 1 minutes 3.17 seconds
    Outrider's test: 3 minutes 43.97 seconds

    2xRTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 45.28 seconds
    Outrider's test: 2 minutes 37.72 seconds

    Which works out to (per card)

    GTX1080ti Founders Edition             RTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 3.15 minutes       1.5 minutes
    Outrider's test: 11.15 minutes          5.25 minutes

    Hope this helps.

    Of course, they cost more than the 1080tiS, so should render faster. :)

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,710
    rrward said:

    I upgraded from three GTX 1080ti cards to two RTX 2080ti cards. Below are my benchmarks with each setup.

    DS 4.11 General Release
    3 x GTX1080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 1 minutes 3.17 seconds
    Outrider's test: 3 minutes 43.97 seconds

    2xRTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 45.28 seconds
    Outrider's test: 2 minutes 37.72 seconds

    Which works out to (per card)

    GTX1080ti Founders Edition             RTX 2080ti Founders Edition
    Sickleyeild's test: 3.15 minutes       1.5 minutes
    Outrider's test: 11.15 minutes          5.25 minutes

    Hope this helps.

    Can I have your old cards please?  LOL

  • wsgentrywsgentry Posts: 572
    edited July 2019
    rrward said:
    wsgentry said:

    Wondering about this.  What render settings are you using?   I'm asking because I have 2080ti in a graphics amplifier on an Alienware r4 17 laptop and it did Outrider's test in 4 minutes 47.54 seconds, default render settings (5000 Max samples, Max Time 7200, etc.) It hit 5000 iterations.

    Thanks!

    Scott

    rrward said:

    Default settings that the file specified. 5000 iterations. Are you going by the times displayed on screen (which might include texture load times)? I used the times listed in Studio's log file (I purged the log file between runs so I didn't grab the wrong numbers by mistake). My cards are on PCIE3-16x slots on my motherboard. I don't know if that makes any kind of difference.

    I got the time straight from the logfile.  It is almost exactly twice as fast as my 1080ti in the same graphics amplifier chassis.   The graphics amplifier is a single PCIE3-16x slot (to my knowledge) and is an extension of the motherboard's PCIE (which can't be gotten to any other way save the graphics amplifier).  This is an interesting issue.  I wonder why this is happening?  I mean two cards are way faster than my one card and that's to be expected.  I would have expected my laptop to be slower than a single 2080ti render on a tower/desktop PC due to the connecting cable. 

    Scott

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  • attilaszkablinattilaszkablin Posts: 7
    rrward said:
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

    Motherboard is ROG Rampage VI Extreme. 

    They are blower cards obviously but yeah I keep the fans at 80% while rendering. Gets really loud. I want to do watercooling but I’ve never done it before so I’ve been putting it off for now. Maybe the next rig...

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    TheKD said:

    Can I have your old cards please?  LOL

    Sold them, sorry. (Took all of ten minutes to find buyers at work.)

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,710
    rrward said:
    TheKD said:

    Can I have your old cards please?  LOL

    Sold them, sorry. (Took all of ten minutes to find buyers at work.)

    DAng, that's a quick sale of three beast cards :D

  • AalaAala Posts: 140
    attilaszkablin said:
    rrward said:
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

    Motherboard is ROG Rampage VI Extreme. 

    They are blower cards obviously but yeah I keep the fans at 80% while rendering. Gets really loud. I want to do watercooling but I’ve never done it before so I’ve been putting it off for now. Maybe the next rig...

    I've been thinking of doing a 4x GPU system myself, and it seems like blower cards are the way to go. Are they really that loud when rendering? What sort of temperatures do you get at 80% fan speed?

  • attilaszkablinattilaszkablin Posts: 7
    Aala said:
    attilaszkablin said:
    rrward said:
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

    Motherboard is ROG Rampage VI Extreme. 

    They are blower cards obviously but yeah I keep the fans at 80% while rendering. Gets really loud. I want to do watercooling but I’ve never done it before so I’ve been putting it off for now. Maybe the next rig...

    I've been thinking of doing a 4x GPU system myself, and it seems like blower cards are the way to go. Are they really that loud when rendering? What sort of temperatures do you get at 80% fan speed?

    Blowers are the only way if you are going to stack them (and not going liquid cooling).

    You're gong to be getting high temps on most cards either way because of GPU Boost. The bottom card has more air to "breath" in my config and that stays on 76-78 degress Celsius, while the other 3 cards are at 84-86 C all the time while rendering.
    These are on 80% fan speed. Increasing it to 100% raises the noise exponentially but the cards stay at the same temp - because GPU boost will just raise the clock speeds as soon as they get cooler.

    And I have Asus Turbo cards for the RTX 2080Ti's - they suck. Now just general fan noise, but a lot of "whining" noise as well. I'm kind of used to it now but I'd check out some cards from other manufacturers.

    Lately I really think if you are building a new workstation with 4x GPUs it's worth investing into a high-end liquid cooling system. Much quieter and gives higher performance since the thermals won't be limiting clock speeds if the cards are on a good loop.
    Actually could overclock the cards as well. And overclocking 4 cards is a noticeable performance boost in my opinion.

  • elusiv_3763c6f5e0elusiv_3763c6f5e0 Posts: 15
    attilaszkablin said:
    Aala said:
    attilaszkablin said:
    rrward said:
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

    Motherboard is ROG Rampage VI Extreme. 

    They are blower cards obviously but yeah I keep the fans at 80% while rendering. Gets really loud. I want to do watercooling but I’ve never done it before so I’ve been putting it off for now. Maybe the next rig...

    I've been thinking of doing a 4x GPU system myself, and it seems like blower cards are the way to go. Are they really that loud when rendering? What sort of temperatures do you get at 80% fan speed?

    Blowers are the only way if you are going to stack them (and not going liquid cooling).

    You're gong to be getting high temps on most cards either way because of GPU Boost. The bottom card has more air to "breath" in my config and that stays on 76-78 degress Celsius, while the other 3 cards are at 84-86 C all the time while rendering.
    These are on 80% fan speed. Increasing it to 100% raises the noise exponentially but the cards stay at the same temp - because GPU boost will just raise the clock speeds as soon as they get cooler.

    And I have Asus Turbo cards for the RTX 2080Ti's - they suck. Now just general fan noise, but a lot of "whining" noise as well. I'm kind of used to it now but I'd check out some cards from other manufacturers.

    Lately I really think if you are building a new workstation with 4x GPUs it's worth investing into a high-end liquid cooling system. Much quieter and gives higher performance since the thermals won't be limiting clock speeds if the cards are on a good loop.
    Actually could overclock the cards as well. And overclocking 4 cards is a noticeable performance boost in my opinion.

    Hi... mind if I ask what kind of PSU you're using for this?

    I'm thinking about the same kind of rig, and wondering if you use one or two PSUs?

    Thanks :)

  • AalaAala Posts: 140
    attilaszkablin said:
    Aala said:
    attilaszkablin said:
    rrward said:
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

    Motherboard is ROG Rampage VI Extreme. 

    They are blower cards obviously but yeah I keep the fans at 80% while rendering. Gets really loud. I want to do watercooling but I’ve never done it before so I’ve been putting it off for now. Maybe the next rig...

    I've been thinking of doing a 4x GPU system myself, and it seems like blower cards are the way to go. Are they really that loud when rendering? What sort of temperatures do you get at 80% fan speed?

    Blowers are the only way if you are going to stack them (and not going liquid cooling).

    You're gong to be getting high temps on most cards either way because of GPU Boost. The bottom card has more air to "breath" in my config and that stays on 76-78 degress Celsius, while the other 3 cards are at 84-86 C all the time while rendering.
    These are on 80% fan speed. Increasing it to 100% raises the noise exponentially but the cards stay at the same temp - because GPU boost will just raise the clock speeds as soon as they get cooler.

    And I have Asus Turbo cards for the RTX 2080Ti's - they suck. Now just general fan noise, but a lot of "whining" noise as well. I'm kind of used to it now but I'd check out some cards from other manufacturers.

    Lately I really think if you are building a new workstation with 4x GPUs it's worth investing into a high-end liquid cooling system. Much quieter and gives higher performance since the thermals won't be limiting clock speeds if the cards are on a good loop.
    Actually could overclock the cards as well. And overclocking 4 cards is a noticeable performance boost in my opinion.

    Awesome, thanks for the info! After much deliberation, I think I'm going for just two fan 2080 Ti's with 3-slot spacing, something like Gigabyte's wind-force, on my current set up. I'm going to wait until Nvidia comes out with Ampere before diving into a 4-gpu system, and thinking of making it liquid cooled too.

     

    elusiv_3763c6f5e0 said:
    attilaszkablin said:
    Aala said:
    attilaszkablin said:
    rrward said:
    attilaszkablin said:

    Went from 4x1080 Ti’s to 4x2080Ti’s 4-5 months ago.  Can confirm the Turing cards are about twice as fast currently in daz than maxwell. My secondary render pc uses 4x1080 Ti’s still. 

    What motherboard are you using? And cooling must be a bit of a nightmare.

    Motherboard is ROG Rampage VI Extreme. 

    They are blower cards obviously but yeah I keep the fans at 80% while rendering. Gets really loud. I want to do watercooling but I’ve never done it before so I’ve been putting it off for now. Maybe the next rig...

    I've been thinking of doing a 4x GPU system myself, and it seems like blower cards are the way to go. Are they really that loud when rendering? What sort of temperatures do you get at 80% fan speed?

    Blowers are the only way if you are going to stack them (and not going liquid cooling).

    You're gong to be getting high temps on most cards either way because of GPU Boost. The bottom card has more air to "breath" in my config and that stays on 76-78 degress Celsius, while the other 3 cards are at 84-86 C all the time while rendering.
    These are on 80% fan speed. Increasing it to 100% raises the noise exponentially but the cards stay at the same temp - because GPU boost will just raise the clock speeds as soon as they get cooler.

    And I have Asus Turbo cards for the RTX 2080Ti's - they suck. Now just general fan noise, but a lot of "whining" noise as well. I'm kind of used to it now but I'd check out some cards from other manufacturers.

    Lately I really think if you are building a new workstation with 4x GPUs it's worth investing into a high-end liquid cooling system. Much quieter and gives higher performance since the thermals won't be limiting clock speeds if the cards are on a good loop.
    Actually could overclock the cards as well. And overclocking 4 cards is a noticeable performance boost in my opinion.

    Hi... mind if I ask what kind of PSU you're using for this?

    I'm thinking about the same kind of rig, and wondering if you use one or two PSUs?

    Thanks :)

    I imagine a 1600W PSU will do the trick nicely. 

  • EnoughButterEnoughButter Posts: 103

    I'm a bit confused-the benchmark in the first post shows the 2080Ti almost 2x as fast as the 1080Ti.

    Richard notes that benchmark uses the 4.12 beta, which supposedly supports the RTX cores.

    But rrward, Scott, and attilazaban are all seeing around 2x improvement without the 4.12 beta, so without the RTX cores?

    So what are the RTX cores doing in the benchmark in the first post?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 104,283
    NeverEnoughButter said:

    I'm a bit confused-the benchmark in the first post shows the 2080Ti almost 2x as fast as the 1080Ti.

    Richard notes that benchmark uses the 4.12 beta, which supposedly supports the RTX cores.

    No, I was saying the linked article was using the version of Iray that the change log shows has been added to 4.12.x.x, but as far as I know the benchmark used the stand-alone Iray Server.

    NeverEnoughButter said:

    But rrward, Scott, and attilazaban are all seeing around 2x improvement without the 4.12 beta, so without the RTX cores?

    So what are the RTX cores doing in the benchmark in the first post?

     

  • EnoughButterEnoughButter Posts: 103
    Richard Haseltine said:
    NeverEnoughButter said:
    No, I was saying the linked article was using the version of Iray that the change log shows has been added to 4.12.x.x, but as far as I know the benchmark used the stand-alone Iray Server

    Ah, ok, sorry, I misunderstood! Really looking forward to the RTX enabled benchmarks-trying to hold off pulling the trigger on a 2080Ti until the 4.12 beta is released. 

  • JonnyRayJonnyRay Posts: 1,744

    New DS Beta announcement includes RTX support (as well as some improved animation tools).

  • nickalamannickalaman Posts: 196

    Can some one do some benchmarks, would love to see the before and after difference in render times. 

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,710

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/341041/daz-studio-iray-rendering-hardware-benchmarking#latest
    Couple of benchmarks here

  • david_23523141david_23523141 Posts: 40

    Hey guys, thanks for posting this data. I have 3X 1080ti and I'm looking to upgrade this year to 2080ti to cut down render times, so really appreciate real-world results to see what I can expect and whether it works in Daz and is worth the cost!

  • TheKDTheKD Posts: 2,710

    dibs on your old cards :P

  • rrwardrrward Posts: 556
    david_23523141 said:

    Hey guys, thanks for posting this data. I have 3X 1080ti and I'm looking to upgrade this year to 2080ti to cut down render times, so really appreciate real-world results to see what I can expect and whether it works in Daz and is worth the cost!

    Dig around for my old posts. I upgraded from 3X1080ti to 2x2080ti and saw a 145% improvement in performance.

  • surodysurody Posts: 261
    rrward said:
    david_23523141 said:

    Hey guys, thanks for posting this data. I have 3X 1080ti and I'm looking to upgrade this year to 2080ti to cut down render times, so really appreciate real-world results to see what I can expect and whether it works in Daz and is worth the cost!

    Dig around for my old posts. I upgraded from 3X1080ti to 2x2080ti and saw a 145% improvement in performance.

    Do you use NVlink?

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