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Empire Centaur Armor for Centaur 7 Male can't be used on regular standing male.

BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,371
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Hello.

I received and also read about this item. From what I learned about this product it cannot be used on regular (non-centaur) standing figures.

That is a shame, as it is looks fantastic. I have a suggestion for the vendors of this and other centaur clothing. 

Is it possible to add the features so it could also be used on a standing male?

That would be fantastic. Many centaur clothing items look great but as I am not into centaurs, I don't get them. If they could also be used on standing males that would give more uses and open the product to more sales for the vendor.

Is that possible?

Thanks.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,202

    well it can, it just will have a very big airy butt skirt

    you could possibly use Dforce or Meshgrabber on it or soft select and smooth in Hexagon to send a morph back over the bridge

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049
    edited August 2020

    Exactly. You CAN use it on a regular male, it will just look silly, even with the cape hidden. 

    I'm not sure it would be possible to design a single piece of clothing that would work well on both humans and centaurs. Clothing designed for centaurs has to accomodate the horse half, and that means changing it in ways that wouldn't make sense on a human. As someone who does a lot of centaur renders, most normal human clothing doesn't work very well on centaurs, either. Therefore, something like the Empire Centaur Armor that worked on humans and centaurs would have to be two completely separate outfits.

    If you need centurion armor, there's always Deacon215 over at Renderosity.

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  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,371
    Gordig said:

    Exactly. You CAN use it on a regular male, it will just look silly, even with the cape hidden. 

    I'm not sure it would be possible to design a single piece of clothing that would work well on both humans and centaurs. Clothing designed for centaurs has to accomodate the horse half, and that means changing it in ways that wouldn't make sense on a human. As someone who does a lot of centaur renders, most normal human clothing doesn't work very well on centaurs, either. Therefore, something like the Empire Centaur Armor that worked on humans and centaurs would have to be two completely separate outfits.

    If you need centurion armor, there's always Deacon215 over at Renderosity.

    Yes. you are right.... looks rediculous. If the cape and skirt had two versions, one for men and one for cantaur that would help. Would that be hard to do?

    The upper amour part would be the same.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049
    edited August 2020
    Bendinggrass said:
    Gordig said:

    Exactly. You CAN use it on a regular male, it will just look silly, even with the cape hidden. 

    I'm not sure it would be possible to design a single piece of clothing that would work well on both humans and centaurs. Clothing designed for centaurs has to accomodate the horse half, and that means changing it in ways that wouldn't make sense on a human. As someone who does a lot of centaur renders, most normal human clothing doesn't work very well on centaurs, either. Therefore, something like the Empire Centaur Armor that worked on humans and centaurs would have to be two completely separate outfits.

    If you need centurion armor, there's always Deacon215 over at Renderosity.

    Yes. you are right.... looks rediculous. If the cape and skirt had two versions, one for men and one for cantaur that would help. Would that be hard to do?

    The upper amour part would be the same.

    WOULD it be the same, though? Remember, the upper armor has to work with the centaur body, too. Here's what it looks like without the rear skirt:

    Still looks fairly silly to me. A centaur's hips are much lower relative to the abdomen than a normal human's, which influences the way their outfits are designed. Would it be hard to do? Well, on this outfit, everything is a single piece, so the centaur and human skirts would have to be modeled onto a single piece, then all the necessary morphs added to the human and centaur parts individually. If it were modular, it might be more feasible to make human and centaur pieces, but that would basically mean making two complete outfits, because the armor would have to change as well. Not "hard", per se, but definitely a lot more work. 

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  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,371
    Gordig said:
    Bendinggrass said:
    Gordig said:

    Exactly. You CAN use it on a regular male, it will just look silly, even with the cape hidden. 

    I'm not sure it would be possible to design a single piece of clothing that would work well on both humans and centaurs. Clothing designed for centaurs has to accomodate the horse half, and that means changing it in ways that wouldn't make sense on a human. As someone who does a lot of centaur renders, most normal human clothing doesn't work very well on centaurs, either. Therefore, something like the Empire Centaur Armor that worked on humans and centaurs would have to be two completely separate outfits.

    If you need centurion armor, there's always Deacon215 over at Renderosity.

    Yes. you are right.... looks rediculous. If the cape and skirt had two versions, one for men and one for cantaur that would help. Would that be hard to do?

    The upper amour part would be the same.

    WOULD it be the same, though? Remember, the upper armor has to work with the centaur body, too. Here's what it looks like without the rear skirt:

    Still looks fairly silly to me. A centaur's hips are much lower relative to the abdomen than a normal human's, which influences the way their outfits are designed. Would it be hard to do? Well, on this outfit, everything is a single piece, so the centaur and human skirts would have to be modeled onto a single piece, then all the necessary morphs added to the human and centaur parts individually. If it were modular, it might be more feasible to make human and centaur pieces, but that would basically mean making two complete outfits, because the armor would have to change as well. Not "hard", per se, but definitely a lot more work. 

    I don't have any knowledge on how to model something. I thought that perhaps all that was needed was a way to "lengthen" the skirt or pull the length dowm, add some morphs to that for fit, and a few morphs to the cape. Simpleminded, I know.

    Would it be a big job to adjust this for makes standing? Others, including yourself, are more knowledgeable about this than I am.

  • FirstBastionFirstBastion Posts: 7,760

    Anyone try to apply dforce to the tunic skirt? 

  • Noah LGPNoah LGP Posts: 2,589

    You can also recycle old stuff

    https://www.daz3d.com/mec4d-hoplite-soldier-for-genesis-2-male-s

     

     

  • SummerhorseSummerhorse Posts: 684

    I agree with Noah- this : https://www.daz3d.com/mec4d-hoplite-soldier-for-genesis-2-male-s is a gorgeous piece, and  it's easy to use shaders to alter the colors if you wish.

  • SevrinSevrin Posts: 6,306

    And I've not tried, but my guess is that you can't use it on a regular standing horse, either.

  • EllessarrEllessarr Posts: 1,395
    Gordig said:

    Exactly. You CAN use it on a regular male, it will just look silly, even with the cape hidden. 

    I'm not sure it would be possible to design a single piece of clothing that would work well on both humans and centaurs. Clothing designed for centaurs has to accomodate the horse half, and that means changing it in ways that wouldn't make sense on a human. As someone who does a lot of centaur renders, most normal human clothing doesn't work very well on centaurs, either. Therefore, something like the Empire Centaur Armor that worked on humans and centaurs would have to be two completely separate outfits.

    If you need centurion armor, there's always Deacon215 over at Renderosity.

    well to be fair "you can use it" outside daz, for exemple in unreal you can "enable unreal apex cloth" and make the skirt go down an look a little more natural then you can rend inside unreal.

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,202

    I already suggested Dforce, Meshgrabber or morphloader and a modeling app

  • BendinggrassBendinggrass Posts: 1,371

    Thank you, everyone. I know a bit more now.

    R

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,049
    Ellessarr said:
    Gordig said:

    Exactly. You CAN use it on a regular male, it will just look silly, even with the cape hidden. 

    I'm not sure it would be possible to design a single piece of clothing that would work well on both humans and centaurs. Clothing designed for centaurs has to accomodate the horse half, and that means changing it in ways that wouldn't make sense on a human. As someone who does a lot of centaur renders, most normal human clothing doesn't work very well on centaurs, either. Therefore, something like the Empire Centaur Armor that worked on humans and centaurs would have to be two completely separate outfits.

    If you need centurion armor, there's always Deacon215 over at Renderosity.

    well to be fair "you can use it" outside daz, for exemple in unreal you can "enable unreal apex cloth" and make the skirt go down an look a little more natural then you can rend inside unreal.

    You can do that, but it still wouldn't look like it was designed to be worn by a human, because it wasn't.

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