Sources for clothing texture patterns

Ichigo

Hello!

I am working on creating clothing for Daz. hopefully to sell eventually, and I'm starting to think about the texturing process. I was wondering if anyone would be able to share some resources for seamless fabric patterns available for commercial use. Or at least if anyone could tell me if the licenses for some of the sites I've found cover usage via Daz. I think they do, but would love some reassurance I won't be sued haha. I do have filter forge, which gives me a lot of great options for different fabric textures, but I am looking for things like floral patterns, patterns with pumpkins, leaves etc. I see lots of PAs with great patterns like this, so I know the resources are out there somewhere.

Three possibilities I've found are creative fabrica, design bundles (.net), and pattern designs (. com). If anyone could help me be sure that the licenses for these sites cover 3d texturing, or if you have better resources to suggest I would really appreciate it.

Thank you!

zombietaggerung

Textures.com is a great resource, and they even have Substance painter files.

Ichigo

zombietaggerung said:

Textures.com is a great resource, and they even have Substance painter files.

Thanks for reminding me of Textures.com. They don't have all of what I'm looking for, but there are some good options there I hadn't considered before. 

Catherine3678ab

Your camera is your friend :-)  Your scanner is your friend :-) {do be aware though that even patterns have copyrights etc. on them} So back to your camera, take photos of pumpkins, leaves etc and then arrange them into patterns. There are photo filters to make patterns. You have Filter Forge. The photo/image editors also have filters in them and/or available to be used in them.

ArtStation has several texturing resources. Collections of patterns [to be coloured as you please], Substance Painter files, psd, png, etc. files which can be used in some modelers and/or 3D paint programs to make wrinkles, holes, tears, etc. Look for the Commercial OR Extended Commercial licenses there. {and buyer beware, there are a few clowns that try to sell things they shouldn't - they can be reported and will be removed but still, use head as always when shopping anywhere}. I will also mention that several of the vendors at ArtStation also sell the same packages at Cubebrush and one or 3 other places so again, decide where you're shopping so as to not be making needless repeat purchases ;-)

 

 

 

WendyLuvsCatz

an interesting site pointed out to me on another forum
https://www.heritagetype.com/pages/free-vintage-illustrations

are png images with alpha as well as vectors, can be used to make brushes or aranged for patterns 

margrave

zombietaggerung said:

Textures.com is a great resource, and they even have Substance painter files.

Textures.com isn't a great resource if you're aiming to become a PA, though. Their free textures are at most 1024 x 1024 and they have rules against redistributing them.

Sites like PolyHaven and AmbientCG offer public domain assets that can be commercialized and redistributed all you want.

zombietaggerung

margrave said:

zombietaggerung said:

Textures.com is a great resource, and they even have Substance painter files.

Textures.com isn't a great resource if you're aiming to become a PA, though. Their free textures are at most 1024 x 1024 and they have rules against redistributing them.

Sites like PolyHaven and AmbientCG offer public domain assets that can be commercialized and redistributed all you want.

You can pay for premium to get higher res and you can distribute the textures commercially as long as they are edited. Unless they've changed that since the last time I looked.

Edited to add: According to their Terms of Use you are permitted to: 

1. Content downloaded may be used for personal and commercial use (provided the use is in compliance with these terms and conditions). Content may be modified to suit your needs.
2. You are permitted to:
   1. use Content in 2D or 3D computer graphics, website design, advertising banners, movies, television shows and printed media;
   2. incorporate the Content in computer games and 3D models and 3D scenes;
   3. sell or distribute 3D models bundled with modified versions of the Content (with the exception of Substance .sbsar or .sbs files, PBR Materials, HDR Panoramas, 3D Scans and 3D Scanned Objects, 3D Ornaments, 3D Brushes, see 6.3c), but only if you add the following text to the documentation accompanying the model:
      
      "One or more textures on this 3D model have been created with photographs from Textures.com. These photographs may not be redistributed by default; please visit www.textures.com for more information."
   4. for scrapbooking work, but only if you are the end-user of the work. Resale of the Content as scrapbooking packs, scrapbooking papers, templates, etc, is explicitly forbidden (even when the Content is modified).

You are not permitted to: 

1. sell or distribute any Content (modified or not) by themselves or in a texture pack, material, shader, scale modelling papers (pre-printed or digital), scrapbooking pack;
2. use Content in graphic design themes or templates sold to multiple customers on digital marketplaces (this includes stock photography, clipart, templates for websites, business cards and e-cards);
3. sell or distribute the Substance .sbsar or .sbs files, PBR Materials (as a set or as individual maps), 3D Scans, Atlas Sheets, 3D Scanned Objects, 3D Ornaments, 3D Brushes or HDR Panoramas (by itself, bundled with a standalone art asset or a 3D scene);
4. use the Content for creating products sold via 'print on demand' websites (for example print on demand mugs, T-shirts, mouse mats, etc);
5. sell or distribute skins for laptops, phones and other devices created with Content from the Website;
6. use the Content to print wallpaper, fabrics or vinyl wraps (with the exception of private or one-off use);
7. bundle Content with software such as paint programs, plugins, 3D engines, 3D programs or photo-kiosk software;
8. use the content to create marketing materials for competing products or services, including - without limitation – marketing materials for texture libraries, material libraries and/or material creation software;
9. use the Content in connection with deep learning, machine learning, algorithm training, neural networks, machine vision, image recognition or other artificial intelligence technologies;
10. release the Content or derivative products with Content under Open Source Licences;
11. use Content in Second Life, Sansar or any other Linden Lab product or service;
12. use Content for any purpose that violates Dutch or other applicable law or regulation;
13. use a program (spider, leecher) or script to automatically download (all) Content on the Website;
14. interfere with the security or otherwise abuse, disrupt, place excessive loads on, or attempt to gain unauthorised access to the Website or any system resources or networks connected to this website.

margrave

zombietaggerung said:

You are not permitted to: 

1. sell or distribute any Content (modified or not) by themselves or in a texture pack, material, shader, scale modelling papers (pre-printed or digital), scrapbooking pack;
2. use Content in graphic design themes or templates sold to multiple customers on digital marketplaces (this includes stock photography, clipart, templates for websites, business cards and e-cards);
3. sell or distribute the Substance .sbsar or .sbs files, PBR Materials (as a set or as individual maps), 3D Scans, Atlas Sheets, 3D Scanned Objects, 3D Ornaments, 3D Brushes or HDR Panoramas (by itself, bundled with a standalone art asset or a 3D scene);

Those two sections I bolded imply, to me, it wouldn't be allowed.

Textures.com has been around for a very long time, well before the PBR revolution. When they say "textures", I get the sense they mean only the albedo/base color map. It says up there you cannot distribute the individual maps from PBR materials, so anything that comes as a set of albedo, roughness, normal, and bump/height cannot be resold. Since Iray is a PBR engine by nature, anything that's just albedo would look pretty terrible.

Perhaps their rules are just vague and/or poorly-worded about what "PBR Material" means exactly, but that's why I've avoided using their materials in favor of public domain ones.

If the original poster does want to use Textures.com, I would encourage them to at least reach out first and find out if this is an acceptable usage.

EDIT: It seems like Textures.com has reorganized their website, and now all the PBR Materials are under a heading that says, well, "PBR Materials". So I think you are only allowed to redistribute images from the section below, which says "Regular Photos". If you need PBR maps (metallicity/roughness/normal/bump), then you'll have to make them yourself.

zombietaggerung

Well, it's fine that you opt to be so cautious, but I will just say that I have purchased a Stonemason product from here that used one of those image maps from there. I know because I had downloaded the same image myself to use as a wallpaper texture on an item I made. So if it's good enough for Stonemason, it's good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

margrave

zombietaggerung said:

Well, it's fine that you opt to be so cautious, but I will just say that I have purchased a Stonemason product from here that used one of those image maps from there. I know because I had downloaded the same image myself to use as a wallpaper texture on an item I made. So if it's good enough for Stonemason, it's good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

Stonemason may be an excellent modeller, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a legal eagle. I interpret #3 above to mean reselling a standalone asset with Textures.com's PBR maps is not allowed. As I said before, I encourage the original poster, or anybody who wants to use their assets, to reach out to them and confirm it's okay.

Or else just stick to CC0 assets, like those available from the sites I mentioned.

Ichigo

Catherine3678ab said:

Your camera is your friend :-)  Your scanner is your friend :-) {do be aware though that even patterns have copyrights etc. on them} So back to your camera, take photos of pumpkins, leaves etc and then arrange them into patterns. There are photo filters to make patterns. You have Filter Forge. The photo/image editors also have filters in them and/or available to be used in them.

ArtStation has several texturing resources. Collections of patterns [to be coloured as you please], Substance Painter files, psd, png, etc. files which can be used in some modelers and/or 3D paint programs to make wrinkles, holes, tears, etc. Look for the Commercial OR Extended Commercial licenses there. {and buyer beware, there are a few clowns that try to sell things they shouldn't - they can be reported and will be removed but still, use head as always when shopping anywhere}. I will also mention that several of the vendors at ArtStation also sell the same packages at Cubebrush and one or 3 other places so again, decide where you're shopping so as to not be making needless repeat purchases ;-)

 

 

 

Really good point, I have considered taking my own photos and editing them in filter forge (one of my better purchase decisions!). I'll have to do that for things I can't find a good resource for, I will check out artstation and cubebrush too, thanks! 

Ichigo

WendyLuvsCatz said:

an interesting site pointed out to me on another forum
https://www.heritagetype.com/pages/free-vintage-illustrations

are png images with alpha as well as vectors, can be used to make brushes or aranged for patterns 

Wow thank you for pointing this site out, there's a lot of beautiful stuff there! I worry a little about their license terms-- they say you cannot "Create and sell new digital products using or including our graphic elements even as deconstructed or modified versions”. So that says to me that digital textures for sale would not be ok, even heavily edited, but I may be misunderstanding. Still a great resource for other projects though.

Ichigo

Thanks, everyone, for all the great suggestions. I wanted to mention in case someone else is looking for the same thing-- renderosity has a ton of merchant resources for the type of prints I'm looking for. I had completely neglected to check for that sort of thing there. Between that and all the resources shared here, I'll be able to make an textures I need.

WendyLuvsCatz

Strawbey said:

WendyLuvsCatz said:

an interesting site pointed out to me on another forum
https://www.heritagetype.com/pages/free-vintage-illustrations

are png images with alpha as well as vectors, can be used to make brushes or aranged for patterns 

Wow thank you for pointing this site out, there's a lot of beautiful stuff there! I worry a little about their license terms-- they say you cannot "Create and sell new digital products using or including our graphic elements even as deconstructed or modified versions”. So that says to me that digital textures for sale would not be ok, even heavily edited, but I may be misunderstanding. Still a great resource for other projects though.

it says this though

The Heritage Library collects beautiful illustrations from the past which are 100% free to use. We carefully researched and edited the content to make it useable for you in private or commercial projects. Get inspired by our free illustration bundles and create gorgeous packaging, postcards and more.

 

this is in the included PDFs

License Agreement Heritage Library We carefully selected the content of our Heritage Library and only used resources we believe are in the public domain and therefore copyright free and available to everyone with a CC0 license. In general this means you are allowed to use the resources in any personal and commercial projects for yourself or your clients. You may modify the resources according to your requirements and include them in works such as applications, print materials, websites and others. Learn more about the CC0 license here: https://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/zero/1.0/ Limit of Liability Even though we were really careful to only use public domain resources, we can not guarantee that the content of the Heritage Library is copyright free, so it is your responsibility to ensure it is ok to use it in your country, is suitable for your application and does not infringe any rights. In no event HTC Heritage Type GmbH will be liable to you for any consequential or incidental damages, including any lost revenue, profits, goodwill or savings, or for any claim by any third party. Restrictions As this content is edited, traced or revised you do not have the rights to resell, sublicense or redistribute (even for free) the files on your own or as a separate attachment. If you want to promote our resources on your website we really appreciate it, but you have to link back to our resource page where users can find the download. You Can  Edit Resources  Modify Resources  Use Resources in commercial work  Use Resources in personal work Thank you very much for your support. We hope you enjoy the product as much as we do! You Can Not  Redistribute Resources  Resell Resources  Offer Resources as free downloads  Rebundle Resource

 

which BTW most texture resources say to stop people just reselling them unmodified

IE the png files as is, not refering to stamped on an image as brushes in Photoshop or gimp to form an artwork such as a fabric design

WendyLuvsCatz

I just whipped this seamless texture up in GIMP using some, it is transformative and so useable

Mattymanx

Filterforge:

https://www.filterforge.com/

 

Substance Painter:

https://www.adobe.com/products/substance3d-painter.html

 

Quixel Mixer:

https://quixel.com/mixer

 

Artstation.com is also a good resource

Stonemason

zombietaggerung said:

Well, it's fine that you opt to be so cautious, but I will just say that I have purchased a Stonemason product from here that used one of those image maps from there. I know because I had downloaded the same image myself to use as a wallpaper texture on an item I made. So if it's good enough for Stonemason, it's good enough for me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 

While I do use a lot of maps from textures.com I don't use the PBR textures, I've had a free account with them since they began as I was helping to fill the site up by donating a lot of my own textures..and I have spoken several times with the owners over the years to confirm ..and re-confirm that using the maps on my Daz content was okay