Polish's or Ansiko's VW Beetle - Does Hood Open? (Solved)

tsroemi

Hi owners of https://www.daz3d.com/retro-small-car, I need to know real quick before the sale's over whether this car's hood (and possibly also the trunk) has a morph for opening. The description says 'fully rigged' but I can't find any corresponding renders, neither anything helpful in the file list. Could someone let me know? Thanks very much!

Sevrin

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

tsroemi

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

Oh, I see, thanks! What about Ansiko's version then, would you by any chance also know - https://www.daz3d.com/ladybird? There's a post - here: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/comment/3676231/#Comment_3676231 - in a thread where the 'Ladybird' is also talked about that shows a render of an open-hooded beetle. I'm not sure whether it really is Ansiko's model though.

Plant

The Ansiko model  no they don't open

Charlie Judge

There is a VW Beetle at Renderhub that has opening front and rear hoods. But it is pricey and since it is in fbx or  obj formats you would have to rerig it to use it in DS or Poser.

tsroemi

@Plant and @Charlie Judge, thanks guys, what a pity! Would need the opening hood only sporadically, so there's not much sense in spending too much. I'll have a look at the renderhub model anway. Cheers everyone!

maikdecker

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

richardandtracy

As a slightly sideways suggestion.. If you could bear to have a French rather than German vehicle of similar vintage, 3djoji's Teuf-Teuf (https://www.daz3d.com/teuf-teuf) has an engine under the opening bonnet. It may be hard to recognise as the 2CV engine is a little odd, and has extraneous heating pipes. Must admit I have not compared it fully with my original in the garage for accuracy, but at a glance it looks reasonable. The boot also opens, in fact everything opens including the window flaps. The iray textures for it (https://www.daz3d.com/teuf-teuf-iray-textures-add-on) really lift the model.

Regards,

Richard.

 

tsroemi

maikdecker said:

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

I believe there's some historical foundation for these straps, they're called 'race straps' and seem to have originated from Porsche. But they were not very common on Beetles, and I'd also have liked the hood it its more usual form ...  

tsroemi

richardandtracy said:

As a slightly sideways suggestion.. If you could bear to have a French rather than German vehicle of similar vintage, 3djoji's Teuf-Teuf (https://www.daz3d.com/teuf-teuf) has an engine under the opening bonnet. It may be hard to recognise as the 2CV engine is a little odd, and has extraneous heating pipes. Must admit I have not compared it fully with my original in the garage for accuracy, but at a glance it looks reasonable. The boot also opens, in fact everything opens including the window flaps. The iray textures for it (https://www.daz3d.com/teuf-teuf-iray-textures-add-on) really lift the model.

Regards,

Richard.

 

Thanks, Richard, I have the Citroen already, and unfortunately, the engine is in the wrong place, the old Beetles used have it in the back. It's a sweet little car, nevertheless, I am going to buy the Iray addition soon. 

maikdecker

tsroemi said:

maikdecker said:

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

I believe there's some historical foundation for these straps, they're called 'race straps' and seem to have originated from Porsche. But they were not very common on Beetles, and I'd also have liked the hood it its more usual form ...  

 I can agree to that, as in the 61 years that I've been living here in Germany I've never ever seen a single VW Käfer with such straps attached... and I've seen quite a few Käfer over the decades

tsroemi

maikdecker said:

tsroemi said:

maikdecker said:

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

I believe there's some historical foundation for these straps, they're called 'race straps' and seem to have originated from Porsche. But they were not very common on Beetles, and I'd also have liked the hood it its more usual form ...  

 I can agree to that, as in the 61 years that I've been living here in Germany I've never ever seen a single VW Käfer with such straps attached... and I've seen quite a few Käfer over the decades

Same here (around 40 years in Germany, off and on) - it sure was a weird decision, design-wise ... But maybe the export models to the US especially had the straps more often. 

FSMCDesigns

maikdecker said:

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

really? it took 2 minutes to hide the geometry with the geometry editor and then make a touch up to the texture in photoshop. It's also a simple model so there is no engine or trunk to show if a person wanted to try and make those open. Amazing what some people complain about.

McGyver

tsroemi said:

maikdecker said:

tsroemi said:

maikdecker said:

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

I believe there's some historical foundation for these straps, they're called 'race straps' and seem to have originated from Porsche. But they were not very common on Beetles, and I'd also have liked the hood it its more usual form ...  

 I can agree to that, as in the 61 years that I've been living here in Germany I've never ever seen a single VW Käfer with such straps attached... and I've seen quite a few Käfer over the decades

Same here (around 40 years in Germany, off and on) - it sure was a weird decision, design-wise ... But maybe the export models to the US especially had the straps more often. 
 

I've never seen hood straps on a VW Beetle (Käfer) and I used to live a block from a repair shop ("Bugs & Things") that specialized in VWs of all years and models.

I've seen beetles held together with duct tape, but no leather hood straps... that's MG stuff.

US models had regular hood latches just like the European models. 

The rear engine lid also lacks the iconic center license plate light hood and for some reason has quick release T-latches at the bottom... that along with weird side mirrors, whatever is going on on the the roof and the almost military looking wheels... I'm guessing it was done deliberately... Maybe the modeler was trying to avoid copyright issues by adding unusual details to it to make it look familiar, but not exactly the same?

That or the reference image was of some odd custom vehicle.

maikdecker

FSMCDesigns said:

maikdecker said:

Sevrin said:

Nope.  It's strapped down.  It would have been a lot of work few people would have taken advantage of to model the front trunk and rear engine compartment.

 Would have been nice though, to get that model without those leather straps... I mean, it's a car, not a piece of female clothing, where it's normal to see leather straps attached to every free surface (in DAZ)... Without that strap it would have to been easier to at least make some changes to the model to show it with an open front trunk or engine compartment.

And I would probably would have been ready to pay more than the heavily reduced price than what I paid for it

really? it took 2 minutes to hide the geometry with the geometry editor and then make a touch up to the texture in photoshop. It's also a simple model so there is no engine or trunk to show if a person wanted to try and make those open. Amazing what some people complain about.

Seems some people aren't that fast when working with the geometry editor... especially when part of the process to make those hoods "working" involves having to build a compartment below them from scratch.

And I guess after buying that product I've got every right complain about things that could have been done better. Unless this forum is only to be used as a "Great product!" gathering of satisfied customers.

Richard Haseltine

Reasonable criticism is of course perfectly acceptable, though we may occasionally ask that extended diversions be removed to another thread in the case of the PA's own commercial thread.

tsroemi

Everyone's input was really helpful, thank you all guys! Aside from the hood opening issue, I did feel rather unsure about the straps, but like I said, I figured it was maybe an export model thing. Now that you tell me it's probably not, I think I'll be getting the Ansiko car instead, although this hood doesn't open either. Just because it looks more realistic. And for the hood inside reference, I might actually be getting a cute real-life model to put on my desk.

McGyver

This one would fit on your desk, but it's probably too real-life...

tsroemi

McGyver said:

This one would fit on your desk, but it's probably too real-life...

 

Awww, the poor little thing ...!