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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,407

    ...the first two are pretty much "American".  The Bar Interior is more like a place I'd expect to see somewhere in lower Manhattan or maybe Brooklyn (I have that particular set).  The Neighbourhood Bar reminds me too much of the quasi-gentrified hipster joints I see here in Portland.

    The Steampunk one might work for a 19th or very early 20th century setting. (change the Zeppelin picture out for a painting of a sailing ship or rugby match).

    The Portland pub in the pics I posted is closer to what I would expect to see on some narrow backstreet in London.

  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,564
    edited September 2016

    For something very much easier to put together would be a Australian suburban pub typical up to the 60's. No mod cons.

     

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  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604

    Interior british pub  (one I worked in for a couple of years)   However this was taken before then,  photo dated 1901.

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,586

    Bit overdressed for a Daz_Barmaid . . . wink

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited September 2016

    Bit overdressed for a Daz_Barmaid . . . wink

    LOL,  yes, just a bit.    The interior of that pub did change a bit, the ground floor was altered so that there were 3 bars,  The  cabinet with the bottles etc was still there though,  The bar was altered so that to the right there was a public bar, and  a small snug was added to the end of the main bar there as well, so the public bar was completely separate from the saloon bar..  So it was no longer a curned bar.in the Saloon, but the snug had a bit of the curved part, and a new part was added from about there the older guy is standing to form the bar for the public bar.

    Can't find many photos of typicak british pub interiors, for some reason. Not typical any old pub down the road type images.  Mostly they are off larger, upmarket pubs, not the sort of pub where you would go to have a pint, a chat, a game of darts or cards. Pubs where you can be comfortable,  No fancy wrought iron stuff or any of the twee additions that come with the cahnge of name for a proper pub name to something high faluting and such.

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  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,442
    fred9803 said:

    For something very much easier to put together would be a Australian suburban pub typical up to the 60's. No mod cons.

     

    Looks like it was made in a former swimming pool. Was the idea to fill it with water occasionally so the visitors could enjoy a swim whilst drinking?

  • Havos said:
    fred9803 said:

    For something very much easier to put together would be a Australian suburban pub typical up to the 60's. No mod cons.

     

    Looks like it was made in a former swimming pool. Was the idea to fill it with water occasionally so the visitors could enjoy a swim whilst drinking?

    This is Australia, I doubt they'd use water for the filling.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    It really bothers me how many traditional pubs have closed in Britain in the last few decades. Virtually everyone who knows me knows that it's one of my favourite soapbox subjects, but in just one three-mile stretch of road close to me I can think of six pubs that aren't there anymore, most of which I used to drink in not so long ago. The pub closure story is the same all over the city. A lot of them have been taken over by supermarkets and many have been converted into housing. The one close to the city centre that I used to work in is now a 'massage parlour' (Brit-speak for 'brothel'!).

    I'd love it if P.A.s were to help us capture the traditional British pub culture way of life before it disappears forever. I'd love it even more if I thought we weren't bordering on talking about 'historical' renders now.

  • KeryaKerya Posts: 10,943
    Havos said:
    fred9803 said:

    For something very much easier to put together would be a Australian suburban pub typical up to the 60's. No mod cons.

     

    Looks like it was made in a former swimming pool. Was the idea to fill it with water occasionally so the visitors could enjoy a swim whilst drinking?

     

    Looks cool. Literally - Australia is hot. A room that is tiled like that would be cooler than wood ...

     

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited September 2016

    It really bothers me how many traditional pubs have closed in Britain in the last few decades. Virtually everyone who knows me knows that it's one of my favourite soapbox subjects, but in just one three-mile stretch of road close to me I can think of six pubs that aren't there anymore, most of which I used to drink in not so long ago. The pub closure story is the same all over the city. A lot of them have been taken over by supermarkets and many have been converted into housing. The one close to the city centre that I used to work in is now a 'massage parlour' (Brit-speak for 'brothel'!).

    I'd love it if P.A.s were to help us capture the traditional British pub culture way of life before it disappears forever. I'd love it even more if I thought we weren't bordering on talking about 'historical' renders now.

    Yes.   The two pubs I showed earlier, although still there, are not pubs any longer.  THe white hart looks really tatty and run down and is mostly boarded up. At one stage the people who bought it completely stripped out the beutiful frontage and replced it with a modern abortion.  They were told to rebuild it back how it was, as the area is a dedicated conservation area, and they did not apply for permission to do the alteration. It's future is in doubt.  The Cross Keys is used as some sort of meeting place , but looks exactly how it used to look from the outside. Another pub further up the high street was mysteriously gutted by fire.   Not long aftewrds it was demolished and a Macdonalds drive through built on that corner. The Wheatley arms, (interior short above) was demolished sometimes after 1977 and where it once stood is now a roundabout on the new road system. So that is 4 of the pubs that were still there before I moved from the area which are either no longer there or are not used as pubs.

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  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    Every time a pub disappears, a fairy dies. Support your local boozer! :)

  • DaWaterRatDaWaterRat Posts: 2,885
    Kerya said:

    Unavailable, unfortunately.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,442
    Kerya said:


    Both look more like US bars, than British, to me anyway, although the first one is closer. However I am not sure that one is a complete interior, likely just the bar area, the promos seem to concentrate more on the sexy poses than the interior, either way the product is unavailable in any case.

     

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    edited September 2016
    Kerya said:

    Not at all British looking imo. They can get the outside views looking fine,  but have no idea of the interior.

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  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,169

    I think there is a misnomer here about what is a typical UK pub. There isn't one. Pubs in Scotland, especially here around Glasgow, were basic with wooden floors, tables and chairs. There was nothing fancy about them as they were there to cater for the iron, steel, colliery and ship workers coming out of work and going for a drink. As time passed they added formica tables and put linoleum on the floors. The bars were wood and then formica and were at least  4 feet high on the public side and 3.5 feet high on the servers side, there was a raised floor so they could see over the top of heads easier. The gantry for the drink was basic, either wood or glass shelves with the beer kegs under the bar.

    This was how my town was described in 1869.

    "Dense clouds of smoke roll over it incessantly, and impart to all the buildings a peculiarly dingy aspect. A coat of black dust overlies everything, and in a few hours the visitor finds his complexion considerably deteriorated by the flakes of soot which fill the air, and settle on his face. To experience it it must be visited at night when it presents a most extraordinary spectacle.... From the steeple of the parish church the flames of no fewer than fifty blast furnaces may be seen.... The flames have a positively fascinating effect. Now they shoot far upward, and breaking off short, expire among the smoke; again spreading outward, they curl over the lips of the furnace, and dart through the doorways, as if determined to annihilate the bounds within which they are confined; then they sink low into the crater, and come forth with renewed strength in the shape of great tongues of fire, which sway backward and forward, as if seeking with a fierce eagerness something to devour.

    The Scotsman 1869["

    You can see why there were over 300 licensed premises for a population of 50,000, most of them situated outside or near works gates especially the foundries so that the men working the hot iron could get out for regular pints to keep them hydrated (so I've been told). Now there are only a handful and they haven't changed much over the years, the seats are a bit more comfortable though :) Most of the images I have seen on here are more for hotels, country pubs or modern restaurant style places.

  • Since I recently got a lot of products, this inspired me to see how the Bar Interior looked in iray and moved it to the front of the line.  With the just the Scene preload, it was a bit dark and had lots of grainy reflections (because I forgot to turn on the lights, so everything was from the auto-headlamp.) 

    Added the lights, and it just looked terribly dark because a dozen or so point-lights doesn't really work for Iray.

    Then I got modern with things and redid all the textures with Iray.  The fancy floor tiles got iray Uber Architechture but almost every other surface got a fresh new shader.  The lights are all set as 60 watt bulbs.

  • BlueIreneBlueIrene Posts: 1,318

    It looks great, thistledownsname, but it doesn't look totally like the 'traditional' British pub to me. Here in Britain there is a pub chain called Wetherspoons, which most people either love or hate (I'm not a big fan, to be honest). They buy up old buildings such as railway stations and cinemas then convert them into pubs. I've yet to see one that didn't look more like the building it was originally than a pub, unless it was a pub in the first place. The picture above reminds me a lot of a Wetherspoons round our way that used to be a big old Post Office.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,444

    That description posted by Fishtales by the Scotsman in 1869 comes closest to describing a pub to me. Read it and you'll know when you are in a pub.

    The town I live in now recently only became wet again after, what, I don't know, maybe a century again. Haven't visited any of them yet though as US doesn't really have good public transportation outside a few areas of a few big cities.

  • macleanmaclean Posts: 2,438

    I considered doing a British pub years ago, but after some research, I was daunted by the amount of detail required to make it look convincing. It would be months of work, a scene heavy in polys, and the price....? Well, I wouldn't know until I'd finished it, but I doubt it would be cheap.

    I hope some brave soul will step up to the plate, but I'm afraid it won't be me.

  • FishtalesFishtales Posts: 6,169

    This is worth a read.

    http://www.heritagepubs.org.uk/download/ScotlandsTrueHeritagePubs.pdf

    Still nothing like the hovels I drank in :)

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,444

    I'm surprised there is not a replica of the Queen Vic from East Enders in the DAZ Store

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,586

    it's a bit small, but this is our local "Weatherspoons that used to be a Post Office". They've bunged a red phone box in there just to rub it in (it's got a slot machine inside it!)

     

    This is the bar of my local. It's an old 16th century coaching inn (in market towns outside the big cities, there are lots of old coaching inns. Many are now pubs, although some are still inns - an inn having accomodation to rent) The building is around 500 years old, although the bar was last renovated around 10 years ago.

     

     

  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,407
    edited September 2016

    It looks great, thistledownsname, but it doesn't look totally like the 'traditional' British pub to me. Here in Britain there is a pub chain called Wetherspoons, which most people either love or hate (I'm not a big fan, to be honest). They buy up old buildings such as railway stations and cinemas then convert them into pubs. I've yet to see one that didn't look more like the building it was originally than a pub, unless it was a pub in the first place. The picture above reminds me a lot of a Wetherspoons round our way that used to be a big old Post Office.

    ...we have a similar chain here In Portland founded back in the 1980s by the Brothers McMenamin.  The pub I posted the pictures of on the previous page of is one of theirs. 

    Similar to Wetherspoons, they buy old historic places and  restore/convert them. Their Flagship is he Edgefield Manor which used to be the old County Poor Farm in the early part of last century.  They've also converted a couple old schools into hotel/pubs, as well as a chapel, several abandoned hotels, an old ballroom downtown (which is a major concert venue), a former exclusive men's club in a town north of Portland, and even a 1920s Cinema palace. 

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,290

    There's always the old Tavern in the PC collection. It's related to the Redhouse Shops, although I think it's actually one of Isa's. At any rate, not one of Jack Tomalin's. Like the rest of the shops it's an interior, missing the back wall.

    Souless Empathy has an interior of an old time city bar. Looks like early 20th century, but doesn't look British.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,442

    it's a bit small, but this is our local "Weatherspoons that used to be a Post Office". They've bunged a red phone box in there just to rub it in (it's got a slot machine inside it!)

     

    This is the bar of my local. It's an old 16th century coaching inn (in market towns outside the big cities, there are lots of old coaching inns. Many are now pubs, although some are still inns - an inn having accomodation to rent) The building is around 500 years old, although the bar was last renovated around 10 years ago.

     

     

    The second of those two pictures are more like the kind of British pub I had in mind. However as maclean and others have pointed out, a traditional style pub tends to have a lot of clutter on the walls, and around the bar, so would be a major effort to make one look convincing.

    When I was living in London a few years back we often went to Wetherspoon's bars. I liked them for two important reasons, firstly the beer was much cheaper than most places, and secondly, the bars did not play blaring disco music all the time, so you could actually talk to your mates.

  • fred9803fred9803 Posts: 1,564
    Havos said:
    fred9803 said:

    For something very much easier to put together would be a Australian suburban pub typical up to the 60's. No mod cons.

    Looks like it was made in a former swimming pool. Was the idea to fill it with water occasionally so the visitors could enjoy a swim whilst drinking?

    There was another logic behind the design. Pubs closed at 6 o'clock and they were packed with those leaving work for an hours solid drinking...the "six o'clock swill". Furniture of any sort would only get in the way.

     

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