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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,016
    edited May 2017
    Dream Cutter said:
    Charlie Judge said:
    SpottedKitty said:
    Charlie Judge said:
    the items that we missed when the sale was pulled early.

    Speaking of which, did anyone get a reply to their support ticket along the lines of "the sale was released prematurely, because of this we weren't able to keep it going" — that's what I got, and it doesn't sound quite right to me.

    Same here and there was NO offer to sell me the products that had been my cart at the sale discount price. nonono

    OK that explains it ... it was a glitch sale. Well at least those who benifited got the a fantastic deal.  Gotta be quick on the draw to catch a glitch in the cart.

    NO! NO! NO! it was not a glitch sale. It was planned and even advertised in the daily email and there was NO stacking or other errors only the $5 advertised price with an additional 40% off for 5 or more items. So, there was every expectation that it would last at least for the day 

    And yes it resulted in a good price; but these are older items and the deal was no better than when older RDNA items were brought over last summer.

    DAZ planned and executed the sale which worked perfectly. They should have honored it at least for the day it was advertised. Since they didn't I have now chosen to shop elsewhere.

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  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232
    Dream Cutter said:
    OK that explains it ... it was a glitch sale.

    If you mean my "released prematurely", I got the impression it was started a few hours early, and because technobabble, they were unable to extend it to what should have been the intended finish time. Not quite the usual glitch, I think. And definitely not the usual kind of "glitch sale" that's been plagueing the store for the last few years.

  • SpottedKittySpottedKitty Posts: 7,232

    Okay, now we get the new VP stuff... with lots of missing promo pics, several of the new items I looked at have missing wishlist/cart buttons and missing important info, and I'm not sure if the sale offer is quite as good as it was the first time round. Ah, well.

    I'll wait until a bit later (but not too late) in the day and see if things get fixed. Right now with the number of things wrong, this is a no-sale for me, and if it vanishes early like the first one did, I will fire off a nastygram Support ticket. They're rushing things too much with these mass transfers from other stores, and obvious mistakes are being made.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited May 2017

    They seriously put Obama in the shop? https://www.daz3d.com/barack-obama-for-poser

    I hope that doesn't get them into Trouble regarding personality rights... They are already skirting things with all the Trek & Dr Who stuff.

    Otherweise, I really think there are a lot of useful things in there; even though some doesn't wortk properly in Studio, but those that don't have functional parts work and look great.

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  • Cris PalominoCris Palomino Posts: 11,914

    It helps us if you can give some URLs to problematic products, or shoot them off to customer service.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    edited May 2017

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    Missing images... that#s just from the first 180 items... I'm not interested doing DAZ Store's job here...

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  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750
    edited May 2017

     400  302 products, new to Daz, up to 70% off!

    Mmmm. Wishlisted all the products I already had so I could note that down plus some others from wishlists elsewhere, don't know how long that took, checking back'n'forth. Half that was a waste of time 'cos now they've gone. Can I have a free band-aid for my broken-arse please?

    On a positive note, ony one item from my cart disappeared.

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  • LlynaraLlynara Posts: 4,770

    I noticed three of the Vanishing Point items "vanished" from the store. I guess they don't call it Vanishing Point for nothing, LOL

    Country Lane Bridge, Corn Crib and Derelict Barn all show 404 errors now when trying to get to their pages:

    When I opened my cart in a new window, Country Lane Bridge and Corn Crib disappeared from my cart. Not sure if they're fixing them or just pulling them. Kind of annoying to spend time picking out stuff I want and then having it pulled from my cart. 

    @Scavenger I can't find the thread where you were taking requests for DAZ conversions, but I'd love to see the Clermont Cathedral for 3DS Max ported over if it's possible. That's a really beautiful set. Can DAZ import .MAX files? I've never tried it. 

     

  • hphoenixhphoenix Posts: 1,335
    Peter Fulford said:

    The 3D Studio Max versions will come in handy. frown

    Not for most of us.  And the models offered only in .MAX format (like the Alfa Romeo Spyder, and some others) can ONLY be opened with 3DS Max.  There's not much point offering them here.  Very few of the customers here also have 3DS Max.  If they were offered in .3ds format, that could at least be converted to OBJ or FBX formats.

     

  • thistledownsnamethistledownsname Posts: 1,331

    I see the handguns made it in this time.  I already bought them at Rendo (My first purchase there, in fact).  I don't suppose there's a way to get them flagged on my account here as being owned?

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,444
    edited May 2017

    I would like to very much buy all the car & truck models if they were converted from 3DS Max to either Poser or DAZ format.

    And besides that there are a group of circa 1900 town buildings I'd like to buy. Earlier "@Dream Cutter" said a little yellow bi-plane may be used in games. May the cars & other vehicles? May the 1900 buildings be used in games? Is that the Vaninshing Point's policy for all the models they sell in the DAZ 3D Store?

    eg - may these be used in games?

    https://www.daz3d.com/chevrolet-corvette-for-poser (a bunch of VP vehicles that are similar - I know this car and most vehicles are restricted to editorial uses by every legal entity but GM)

    https://www.daz3d.com/coalville-drugstore-for-poser (and other similar buildings by VP)

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,444
    edited May 2017

    duplicate post

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  • JOdelJOdel Posts: 6,290

    I'm recognizing a lot of stuff from stores that have closed. Quite a bit of which I already have. But not necessarily the whole things are here. Like Wolmol's western train. There's his cargo wagon, but not the engine. But I also spotted several of Design Anvil's models and at least a few of 9mbi's. 

    It's good to see them back, but annoying when they are determined to play peekaboo.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,016
    SpottedKitty said:

    ...., and I'm not sure if the sale offer is quite as good as it was the first time round. Ah, well. ....

    It depends on the item.

    Assuming you are doing the 70% off for 5 with a new releaase then if the full base price is greater than $10 you are worse off with todays sale; but if the base price is less than $10 you are better off with today's sale.

  • Peter FulfordPeter Fulford Posts: 1,325
    hphoenix said:
    Peter Fulford said:

    The 3D Studio Max versions will come in handy. frown

    Not for most of us.  

    Guess I should have used some sarc tags with that frown smilie. wink

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 7,132

    Were any of these once offered as freebies? Some look familiar and I feel like I may have downloaded them at some point a long time ago...

  • ChoholeChohole Posts: 33,604
    Wonderland said:

    Were any of these once offered as freebies? Some look familiar and I feel like I may have downloaded them at some point a long time ago...

    Not as freebies, but many if not all have been avalable previously on other sites.  The Newsletter did say "New to Daz" 

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,016
    Wonderland said:

    Were any of these once offered as freebies? Some look familiar and I feel like I may have downloaded them at some point a long time ago...

    I don't know if the were ever freebies; but probably not.  However, they are quite old and most of them have been on sale at other sites such as Vanishing Point, Rendo, and CP. Maybe you bought them there.

  • Dream CutterDream Cutter Posts: 1,224
    BeeMKay said:

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    This is not a problem.  Unlike other PA's VanishingPoint has partnered with a modler that has aquired the specific rights to model these design copyright of brand name products.  Infact these these models could not be offered without recognizing the real world copyright design. I can attest to this as I have read the pass-through licensing agreement VP holds on these.

  • Dream CutterDream Cutter Posts: 1,224
    edited May 2017

    VP's "Catacombs of the Dead" is released today.  Its a HUGE set and I have a lot of fun with it.  I want to share a walkthrugh so you can see it in detail.  
    Pardon the camera clipping glitches. 

     

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674
    Llynara said:
    @Scavenger I can't find the thread where you were taking requests for DAZ conversions, but I'd love to see the Clermont Cathedral for 3DS Max ported over if it's possible. That's a really beautiful set. Can DAZ import .MAX files? I've never tried it. 

     

    I'll make a note of it :D

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    On the formats that aren't for DAZ...this is the VP back catalog. While there's new stuff coming out in Daz format, the old stuff is..well..old :)

     

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,016

    Hint: If you buy any of the comercial aircraft checkout the Vanishing Point website for free add-on texture sets.

  • Pack58Pack58 Posts: 750

    For what it's worth, none of the items I purchased nor any I checked the shop pages of afterwards have Daz Connect files at present.

    I use DIM so no worries for me but at least one (https://www.daz3d.com/bankhaus-for-poser) has no DIM file yet.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019
    Dream Cutter said:
    BeeMKay said:

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    This is not a problem.  Unlike other PA's VanishingPoint has partnered with a modler that has aquired the specific rights to model these design copyright of brand name products.  Infact these these models could not be offered without recognizing the real world copyright design. I can attest to this as I have read the pass-through licensing agreement VP holds on these.

    Thanks for the information. This information was missing from the product pages, and basically kept me from buying stuff.

    Still makes me wonder about Obama, though. ;-)

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,444
    edited May 2017

    Public figures may be used the same way products may be used: editorial purposes. Any newspaper or too much of what is on television uses Obama, Trump, or the target du jour. There was even a show on PBS the other day about the hypothetical future of the Winsors after Queen Elizabeth II dies made by the BBC which I avoided watching and in my mind was a very thin guise indeed. I may of avoided watching it but I can't help look at those BBC and British dramas occasionally with the sound turned off as they are gorgeous to the eyes. 

    In contrast to that, you couldn't do the same with myself or someone with you. It'd would be seen as an invasion of privacy. To do so you'd actually have to witness a crime and then of course you are obligated to go to the police. 

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,014
    BeeMKay said:
    Dream Cutter said:
    BeeMKay said:

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    This is not a problem.  Unlike other PA's VanishingPoint has partnered with a modler that has aquired the specific rights to model these design copyright of brand name products.  Infact these these models could not be offered without recognizing the real world copyright design. I can attest to this as I have read the pass-through licensing agreement VP holds on these.

    Thanks for the information. This information was missing from the product pages, and basically kept me from buying stuff.

    Still makes me wonder about Obama, though. ;-)

    Politicians seem to be fairly immune to that kind of things, probably  because they're generally considered more or less "public domain". IMO creating a normal looking 3D model of a president seems quite harmless compared to how presidents are being portrayed in e.g. satire. Just look at how Reagan was portrayed in the "Spitting Image" videos, on public TV, they even joked about his alzheimers disease.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10662154/Spitting-Image-essential-satire-for-a-generation.html

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 13,016
    edited May 2017
    Taoz said:
    BeeMKay said:
    Dream Cutter said:
    BeeMKay said:

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    This is not a problem.  Unlike other PA's VanishingPoint has partnered with a modler that has aquired the specific rights to model these design copyright of brand name products.  Infact these these models could not be offered without recognizing the real world copyright design. I can attest to this as I have read the pass-through licensing agreement VP holds on these.

    Thanks for the information. This information was missing from the product pages, and basically kept me from buying stuff.

    Still makes me wonder about Obama, though. ;-)

    Politicians seem to be fairly immune to that kind of things, probably  because they're generally considered more or less "public domain". IMO creating a normal looking 3D model of a president seems quite harmless compared to how presidents are being portrayed in e.g. satire. Just look at how Reagan was portrayed in the "Spitting Image" videos, on public TV, they even joked about his alzheimers disease.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10662154/Spitting-Image-essential-satire-for-a-generation.html

    Then again if the model was used commercially in such a way as to imply an endorsement of  a product, service, or policy, it might be a problem.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 10,014
    Charlie Judge said:
    Taoz said:
    BeeMKay said:
    Dream Cutter said:
    BeeMKay said:

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    This is not a problem.  Unlike other PA's VanishingPoint has partnered with a modler that has aquired the specific rights to model these design copyright of brand name products.  Infact these these models could not be offered without recognizing the real world copyright design. I can attest to this as I have read the pass-through licensing agreement VP holds on these.

    Thanks for the information. This information was missing from the product pages, and basically kept me from buying stuff.

    Still makes me wonder about Obama, though. ;-)

    Politicians seem to be fairly immune to that kind of things, probably  because they're generally considered more or less "public domain". IMO creating a normal looking 3D model of a president seems quite harmless compared to how presidents are being portrayed in e.g. satire. Just look at how Reagan was portrayed in the "Spitting Image" videos, on public TV, they even joked about his alzheimers disease.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10662154/Spitting-Image-essential-satire-for-a-generation.html

    Then again if the model was used commercially in such a way as to imply an endorsement of  a product, service, or policy, it might be a problem.

    Sure, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would do that.

  • glaseyeglaseye Posts: 1,312
    Taoz said:
    Charlie Judge said:
    Taoz said:
    BeeMKay said:
    Dream Cutter said:
    BeeMKay said:

    Actually, most of the vehicles have brand names and use brand signs. Doesn't DAZ check out those in advance?

    This is not a problem.  Unlike other PA's VanishingPoint has partnered with a modler that has aquired the specific rights to model these design copyright of brand name products.  Infact these these models could not be offered without recognizing the real world copyright design. I can attest to this as I have read the pass-through licensing agreement VP holds on these.

    Thanks for the information. This information was missing from the product pages, and basically kept me from buying stuff.

    Still makes me wonder about Obama, though. ;-)

    Politicians seem to be fairly immune to that kind of things, probably  because they're generally considered more or less "public domain". IMO creating a normal looking 3D model of a president seems quite harmless compared to how presidents are being portrayed in e.g. satire. Just look at how Reagan was portrayed in the "Spitting Image" videos, on public TV, they even joked about his alzheimers disease.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/comedy/comedy-news/10662154/Spitting-Image-essential-satire-for-a-generation.html

    Then again if the model was used commercially in such a way as to imply an endorsement of  a product, service, or policy, it might be a problem.

    Sure, but I don't think anyone in their right mind would do that.

    I dunno.... cheeky

    A casino: The place were Trump gets his cards...

    or a hospital: Here's were Obama cares...

    And ofcourse an ISP: .. our secure email servers... ask Hillary, our newest client.....

     

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,674

    Doesn't really apply to presidents...ie, notice the number of times your local car places or mattress places use "look a like actors" in their commericals?

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