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Marveous Designer vs ClO3D Standalone?
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I just found a tutorial how to fit clothes for DAZ to very different models using Marvelous Designer so I decided to take a look of those 2 products. I browsed the both sites and they seem very similar, and even the pricing is the same. Is ClO3D a split off? Do someone uses them (with 50$ per month they seem rather costly for casual use)? Is there a reason to prefer the one or the other (those are not questions suitable to ask on their forums)?
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The CLO3D doesn't have an option whereby one can as an individual purchase a perpetual license and at $50 a month or $450 annually thay aren't going to get a lot of long term customers except outside 'maybe' a few established game making and other big businesses and those licenses cost even more.
Oh, I see. I mistakenly accepted those $450 are final one time price as the $490 for MD.
No, it's yearly price!
https://support.clo3d.com/hc/en-us/articles/115012666547-What-is-the-difference-between-CLO-and-Marvelous-Designer-
Thanks.
In few words - "We are the big guns"
Not really, that is just marketing talk so they can overcharge Madison Avenue types, as MD already precedes them in that market and charges similar price. The only big difference is MD recognizes as a business they can charge licensing fees to indiviuals more reasonable for hobbyists without damaging their market with the Madison Avenue customer base.
...would love to get the latest update but one version removed from the update path, so I have to pay full price for a perpetual licence.
Which version do you have? It says you can upgrade from 4 and later here:
https://www.renderosity.com/mod/forumpro/?thread_id=2924898
https://www.marvelousdesigner.com/
in fact it says if you go to their home page that until July 4 2018 is your last chance for Marvelous Designer 4 perpetual license holders to upgrade and go up to 85% off the upgrade price.
What isn't clear is after that promotion is over can MD 4 perpetual license holders still upgrade but that don't get the 85% off?
I have yet to buy a perpetual license but I guess I might try in December if they have the discount to $200 - $250 for one like in years past.
I asked this on the official MD forum but for several hours only 1 visitor and 0 answers... doesn't look like an overcrowded place; so sorry but will ask there. Also watched their interface tutorials but couldn't find ans answer. so sorry but will ask here - is there a way to break up the imported 3D garment to the 2d patterns, no matter if those patters are just 1 ot 20? I know there is a command to reverse the sewing but from what I saw the patterns still remain on 3d view.
Well in Blender you do something called 'creating seams' when you create the UV maps but that's not quite the same but should in most cases for clothing match the seams in a clothing pattern.
Sounds feasible, I actually can use directly the UV maps as references.
I just got an aswer on MD forum - it says it is impossible as the model "don't remember" where the sewings were made and considers the whole model as a single mesh.
Well that's odd, because all it needs is seam functionality similar to Blender's, the MD unwraps it, creates a 2D pattern from it, and lets you label the pattern pieces and there you have a clothing pattern, The big difference would be though that tradition sewing patterns are really flat because they are designed for flat cloth while UV unwrapping is more of a Mercator 2D projection from a 3D model so not as good as a real 2D clothing pattern. You should be able to create a real 2D pattern though easily yourself after looking at the UV results after laying out seams were a clothing pattern would have the seams and UV unwrapping in Blender.
Doesn't MD allow you to create original 2D patterns or must they all be bought in an MD store?
You have completely freedom in creating the 2d patterns.
Thanks, I was thinking of buying it next time they have big sale.
Basically I read ppl compaining the sumulation in 7.5 may become slow and sluggish.
Oh, sounds like DAZ Studio 4.10.x now. Wonder what they changed?
System requirements. No kidding. I read several forum posts and it appears MD is optimized to work with only 4 Cores of the CPU. So not only if you have CPU with 2 cores but even if you have CPU with more then 4 cores it still may be slow and slugish *if* you do not set the Simulation properties to use exactly 4 cores.
But of course this is "hearsay" information so do not take it for granted.