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Anybody with Wacom Cintiq experience?
Subtropic Pixel
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I think I saw it mentioned in a thread earlier today. I may be interested in getting a Cintique sometime later this year.
Does anybody have experience with it for modelling in a major modelling application and/or for character and scene setup in DS?
Which model do you have?
What would you suggest I do or don't do when making a purchase decision?
Thanks in advance!
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Have you used graphics tablets before? If so, what kind? I'm an Intuos Pro user, but mainly for applications like Corel Painter and Manga Studio. I've occasionally used it in Blender for editing meshes but never found it useful in DAZ Studio. Edit: Almost forgot to mention that I also use it in 3d-coat.
I have an Intuos, but the Cintique's on-screen nature is attractive to me.
I completely understand. Do you ever use your Intuos with DAZ Studio?
No, hasn't occurred to me to try. Would it be worthwhile to give it a go?
I would be sure to keep an eye on current driver issues and the OS you are on. From time to time I read about latency issues with Cintiq. It's what kept me away (that and the ergonmics issues). I would read some user experiences online, pretty easy to find. Some people love it, some prefer the old school tablet.
i like the old style tablets myself, but I don't use them for Daz. Photoshop, painting programs and sometimes Hexagon or sculptris.
the latency issues change depending on OS and driver version and stuff. Also depends on application and all that. I just know some people have brought it up in various forums/deviantArt/tumblr so I know it is a possiblity, but not an absolute.
I use a Cintiq 24 HD (one of the larger models). I use it for Photoshop, Painter, Clip Studio Paint, and Z Brush but unplug it when using Daz, Carrara, and Lightwave. So basically, I use it where I need pressure sensitivity but prefer the precise movement of a mouse elsewhere. Of course, there's nothing stopping me from using my mouse with the cintiq, but swapping pen for mouse gets a little tedious after awhile and also, ergonomics issues (mentioned below).
I haven't experienced latency issues (I'm on a mac), but ergonomics has been a big problem. I like how physically stable the 24HD is. I can lean on it while I work, unlike the smaller cintiqs that have weaker bases and got wobbly when I tried. But with something that size, you run into the issue of where to put the mouse and keyboard. I ended up attaching a small gaming keyboard to assign hotkeys to and that fixed most of my problems, but I still have to reach for the mouse.
I personally love my cintiq, but as I said, I don't use it much with 3D applications (except painting and zbrush modeling). I think my advise would be that if you choose to go with a Cintiq, go with one of the smaller sizes or find a way to keep your mouse handy.
I have a Cintiq 13HD (the smallest one), and I spent about two months doing everything on it to see how feasible it was as a complete replacement for sitting at my old clunky desk. Results were mostly positive, but I'll tell you what I found out as it relates to using DAZ Studio.
* You can read my initial impressions in this deviantArt journal: http://snowsultan.deviantart.com/journal/Cintiq-critiq-530517555 ;
- It's difficult to scroll the menus in Studio with a Cintiq unless you assign a Pan/Scroll command to one of the tablet's side keys.
- Once in a while, dragging a dial or the camera cube will cause the movement to 'freak out' (which happens a lot with tablets), but that's easily fixed with Undo.
- The worst part for me was not having a keyboard nearby to enter parameter values. I used Windows On-Screen Keyboard and then Hot Virtual Keyboard (which is great), but they don't automatically pop up when you click in a value box (they do in most other programs). This is probably the main reason why I would recommend sticking to mouse and keyboard for Studio.
As Jaimes said, the benefits of a Cintiq really lie in programs where precise drawing or pressure sensitiviy are required. If you seriously use Photoshop, Zbrush and other sculpting or 3D painters, or Manga Studio (where it makes an unbelievable difference), it's a huge step up from a normal tablet.
If you have any other questions, I'll be happy to try and answer. :)
I use a Cintiq 21UX (Mac Pro, Yosemite) on a drawing table for Photoshop, DAZ and a drawing surface. No problems with ergonomics or lagging—DAZ works the same on a tablet or display for me. I'm righthanded and place my keyboard under the left side of the Cintiq in the up position, my mouse on the right, leaving the stylus in the pedestal above the tablet for easy use. I've done hours and hours of work switching apps from DAZ, Photoshop, InDesign, Illustrator, AC3D and Silo without issue. Using it on a regular computer hutch or desk would be an issue for me, but the drawing table inclined several degress up (but not so much you're tablet slides) works well. Going on 6 years in this configuration and I ain't going back.
All of my products besides Muck were done in zbrush with a cintiq DTZ-1200W, a 12-inch model from 2011. I've enjoyed it for when I need the power of a PC for high subdivision sculpting and polypainting. I sometimes still prefer the portability of a tablet pc for when I don't need the power of a pc. I've used a number of different Toshiba Portege's over the years to that effect and have recently switched over to a Fujitsu T902.
It's a great tool for zbrush or photoshop. There would be no reason to use it with studio itself.