PSA For Yellow for Fantasy/Sci Fi/Horror Creators

anaximanes_2000anaximanes_2000 Posts: 369
edited March 5 in Daz Studio Discussion

I found out the hard way, after buying 260 credits, that the AI CANNOT make anything other than normal characters.  On the pictures for the product of course it shows that elf.  But in the documentation it says:

 Yellow plugin documentation.  In the Writing Prompts - & Best Practices section:

"Do not describe figures that have non-human anatomical features (e.g., mermaids, fairies, centaurs, cyclopes, mutilation, etc.)"

 

So essentially, it's only for making normal characters, like a human, which I find odd, since 99% of the character models are that already.  Anyway, I did not want others to buy it thinking their imaginations could run wild.  Just plain old vanilla type things.  For example for the monster girls I need for my erotic games it did not know what a wasp is, or a roach, ant, fly, scorpion, lizard, snake, cobra, manta ray, squid, octopus, crab, lobster... or any other monster women. Hope I help at least one person save an hour of their life.

Post edited by anaximanes_2000 on

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  • I figured that.

  • brainmuffinbrainmuffin Posts: 1,225

    I guess monster shapes are not "ethically sourced". Perhaps they only come from Dr. Moreau.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,383
    No offense, but spending money on something without out reading to see if it can do what you wanted to do is kind of silly.
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 104,239

    Does it fail with elf ears? I would take the disclaimer as meaning you can't add or remove body parts (add tails or wings, replace legs with tails, merge eyes etc.) rather than that it cannot exaggerate existing parts.

  • Timbales said:
    No offense, but spending money on something without out reading to see if it can do what you wanted to do is kind of silly.
    Yeah I don't take offense, I know that I'm just a normal person. Anyway, also to warn everybody you cannot get a refund. So I gave Daz $30 for nothing lol
  • Pantros2Pantros2 Posts: 102

    It's a random character generator. It doesn't seem to respond accurately to prompts at all. On the bell curve of human body shapes, this will only produce human bodies in the middle 40%.

  • Pantros2Pantros2 Posts: 102
    edited March 6

    I tried this prompt.

    An elven woman with long pointed ears.

    What I got was not remotely elven and the ears were neither long nor sufficiently pointed. They were in the bounds of human ear possibility. 

    As I said above, it cannot produce something far from average.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 104,239

    You need to attach your images if you want othrs to see them - pasting them into the body doesn't work (unless it is as an external link, such as to an attachment).

  • bytescapesbytescapes Posts: 1,868

    I did a few quick tests to see if I could generate monstrous characters. As others have said, they don't go very far from the human norm. That said, I quite like some of these; they're loosely faithful to the prompt, and have a certain distinctive appearance. I could see myself re-using some of these. These were the prompts I tried:

    1. An aged vampire, a sinister, demonic figure, extremely thin, with a long narrow skull and a hunched back.
    2. A demon, a muscular creature with a bestial, almost dog-like face and short, pointed ears.
    3. A troll, a massive, heavily-muscled figure with a broad, flat face, a massive, flattened nose, and a prominent jaw. Its neck is extremely short. It has broad shoulders and a huge chest, with thick, short arms and legs.

    The troll really is big compared to the other two. I had to zoom out to render it.

    YellowVampireTest01-01.png
    1280 x 960 - 430K
    YellowDemonTest01-01.png
    1280 x 960 - 546K
    YellowTrollTest01-01.png
    1280 x 960 - 590K
  • EeyoreEeyore Posts: 31
    edited March 8

    I'd like to know just what they means by "ethically sourced."  It seems that despite having purchased morphs, those same descriptions may not be valid prompts to character generation.  So just what is?  I tried to view the "Yellow" documentation and it just keeps producing a page stating the content is no longer available; how can that be?

    *EDIT*  That page which cannot be found is for the related video it appears, but still....   You try to vary the wording for the same result multiple ways and don't get it.  Or, it cites referencing a famous person and the result, at least the face, is nowhere close to the individual.  Why is this

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  • Pantros2Pantros2 Posts: 102

    I'm 99% sure that Ethically Sourced means the AI learning was done with a specific set of models generated exclusively using the Genesis 9 Starter Essentials morphs. I not remotely convinced this isn't just a random shape generator assigning random values to the Starter Essentials morphs. It may choose which morphs to use based on the prompt, but I'm sure the only morphs it uses are those in Genesis 9 natively and those added by the starter essentials. The giveaway to this is - if you buy the extended licenses for Genesis 9 Starter Essentials, you have those licenses for any character created using yellow.

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